• mipadaitu@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Polls don’t matter, especially this far out.

    Vote. Put pressure on politicians to do better. But more than anything. Vote.

    If the polls say he’s 100% going to win. Vote. If you’re in a state that goes blue every time for the last 100 years. Vote. If you’re in a state that goes red every time for the last 100 years. Vote.

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      5 months ago

      Polls always matter, you just have to understand polls.

      This is with third party options and show Biden up 2% which is probably close to margin of error.

      It doesn’t mean Biden has it in the bag, but it means his chances are improved.

      But Biden risks the same dangers Hillary did in 2016.

      People don’t really want to vote for them, they just don’t want trump. So there’s a risk if Biden is polling too well (I don’t think it will be an issue) people will stay home thinking they don’t need to compromise their morals because trump will lose.

      It’s a dangerous game, and we wouldn’t have to play it if we ran a candidate popular with Dem voters.

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        5 months ago

        Don’t vote and help their much worse fascist opponents get elected instead, which will affect the general population, not the wealthy elites. That’ll teach them!

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            5 months ago

            You’re correct. But they get fucked much harder one way than the other. It’s all about harm reduction.

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              Harm reduction is a myth, people have been preaching harm reduction for decades and there’s been no reduction in harm. Quite the opposite, poverty has increased. Homelessness is at a rate not seen since the Great depression, income inequality is the highest ever recorded. The most percentage of people living paycheck to paycheck is higher than any other level recorded. There has been no reduction in harm.

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                  Let’s see. The government tells us that poverty is trending down for decades, yet the number of people living paycheck to paycheck has been increasing. The number of renters that cannot afford their rent has been increasing, homelessness is at the largest level ever recorded, but the claim is poverty is decreasing. Have you ever stopped to consider? Maybe they are lying?

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                    More damn lies.

                    yet the number of people living paycheck to paycheck has been increasing

                    No it’s not.

                    The number of renters that cannot afford their rent has been increasing

                    No it’s not.

                    homelessness is at the largest level ever recorded

                    Not even close.

                    You got any sources for your bullshit, other than “my ass”?

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      I’m not going to vote for Biden until he stops funding a genocide. You cannot say put pressure on them and vote for them no matter what. They do not give a fuck what you think if you’re going to automatically vote for them. That’s why the uncommitted votes in the primaries scared them so much.

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          Oh no, you’re only the thousandth person to tell me that. It’s so persuasive. Either I vote for the guy funding a genocide or the Boogeyman gets elected1!!111!!1

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            5 months ago

            Yes, that’s the reality of the situation, whether you like it or not. If you don’t care if that happens, fair enough. But don’t try to say that not voting for Biden doesn’t help Trump.

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              I didn’t say that. I said that at this point, months into this debacle, it’s obviously not persuasive to me. I am not willing to sell the lives of Palestinian children to make my life marginally more comfortable.

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                Those children will die regardless of who you vote for or if you don’t vote at all. It’s a horrific tragedy that is completely out of anyone who isn’t in power’s control. So instead of worrying about that, worry about what you CAN control - preventing fascists from gaining more power and making things even worse than they already are.