“The race for the White House is too close for comfort,” write parties from around Europe, calling on Stein to throw her support behind Democrat Kamala Harris.
  • chetradley@lemm.ee
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    17 days ago

    I voted for Jill Stein in 2016 because I assumed Hillary was going to win anyway, and I was in a solidly red state so fuck it, might as well vote 3rd party.

    Then Trump won.
    Then I learned about Stein’s backwards views on nuclear energy, GMOs and vaccines.
    Then she turned out to be a Russian asset.
    Then she decided to run again and again, knowing that she’s only acting as a spoiler for the Dems.

    Boy did I make a mistake in 2016. I wish there was a perfect candidate for everyone to vote for, but unfortunately keeping Trump out of the white house is the best we can do. Harris isn’t my first choice, but I voted for her on behalf of all of the people who will suffer under another Trump presidency.

  • surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Stein pulling out wouldn’t result in more votes for Harris. It would just make more people stay home. I think they’re more worried about greens hitting the 5% national threshold.

    Stop assuming these votes are stolen from Harris. She hasn’t earned them.

    • dance_ninja@lemmy.world
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      16 days ago

      You’re right. If they weren’t going to vote for Harris, to me it sounds like they’re perfectly fine with another Trump presidency and the decades of consequences that would follow.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
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      16 days ago

      She hasn’t earned them.

      The binary choice and the risks of failure have been mentioned so many times, that I worry for people who don’t get it.

  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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    17 days ago

    Breaking news: people with an actual commitment to environmentalism recognize Jill Stein for the obvious Russian shill and extreme threat to environmentalism she is. More at 11.

    • mos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      17 days ago

      I see these comments a lot and I’d like to learn more. Do you have any articles on this?

      • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
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        17 days ago

        Well, start here at a dinner she attended in Moscow in late 2015:

        Years later, after Trump was elected, she claimed it was just perfunctory, with no real interaction with Putin. She also claims she received no payment for being there, although we know Flynn received 45k from Putin for his attendance.

        Then there is this from 2016 about Russian efforts to divert Clinton voters to stein. She also received intense press coverage by RT, Russians propaganda TV station, that was not banned in the US at the time.

        Here she is refusing to call Putin a war criminal, a stance she suddenly recanted days later.

        Here is evidence she is currently working with the GOP.

        • index@sh.itjust.works
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          17 days ago

          According to the lesser evil logic receiving money from putin is still less evil than being a fascist or being supporting a genocide.

          • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
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            17 days ago

            Coordinating directly with Putin, the oligarch dictator of Russia, who is currently engaged in a genocide in Ukraine, to elect Trump, a US presidential candidate that has told Israel it “needs to finish the job,” a person whose son in law has said gaza is “excellent beach front property,” and who hid the number of drone strikes and their casualties caused during his admin, is the lesser evil?

            I’d call the above stupid, not its far to disingenuous to be an actual real perspective.

            • index@sh.itjust.works
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              17 days ago

              Like it or not that still lesser evil than being a fascist who said israel “needs to finish the job” or being actively fueling a genocide by sending israel fascist government “whatever it needs”.

              Lesser evil logic, you vote for the lesser evil.

              • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
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                17 days ago

                This is nonsense.

                FPTP voting means there are 2 viable options only. If you don’t vote for the “lesser evil,” you are voting for the “greater evil.”

                Choosing to not make a choice is still a choice. Voting for “not Harris” is the exact same thing as voting for “yes Trump” in our system.

                You’re voting for the greater evil by voting for Jill Stein, which is exactly what her and her partners Putin and Trump want.

  • nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz
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    17 days ago

    What the fuck do I care what europoors think? I don’t like Jill Stein but they should mind their own business! In America we understand that a country’s domestic politics are only the citizens’ business, that’s why we don’t involve ourselves in any foreign country’s domestic matters