• AVincentInSpace@pawb.social
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    1. There are two choices in the 2020 election. No third party stands a ghost of a chance of winning. No, not even if the 30,000 people you can reach on Lemmy all vote for Timothy Greenparty.
    2. A Trump victory in 2024 would not only be just as bad if not worse for the citizens of Gaza than Harris would, but also pose an existential threat to a large number of vulnerable Americans (trans people, immigrants, women seeking abortions).
    3. Given the margins of victory in 2016 and 2020, Kamala might not win if leftists don’t vote for her.

    I’d like to focus my counterargument. Which of these three statements do you disagree with?

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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      2 months ago

      I think you mean the 2024 election in the first point.

      That said, just for my understanding, would Harris alienate a different segment of voters if she went hard against Israel’s genocide? Is her support for Israel out of political compromise or personal conviction?

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      No third party stands a ghost of a chance of winning.

      I live in a blue state, so by that same logic my vote for Harris would be wasted. She’ll win my state whether I vote for her or not, so I might as well vote for a third party. At least that way, I can help the Greens get to that crucial 5% we need for funding.

      Given the margins of victory in 2016 and 2020, Kamala might not win if leftists don’t vote for her.

      Guess she better focus on winning over leftists, then.

      Why do Democrats always act like it’s the voters’ responsibility to get their candidates elected, instead of their candidates’ responsibility to win over voters?

      If Harris wants those votes, then she should tell Israel to move to a ceasefire or she’ll enact an arms embargo. Quit giving Israel money! Simple as.

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      I’ll focus on number 2, a Trump victory would be terrible, but you didn’t say anything about Kamala. The root cause of our issues is capitalism/techo-feudalism, and kicking the stone down the road for 4 years accomplishes nothing. What is Kamala’s plan to bring Socialism to America to keep us from constantly being in this situation?