But why? It look more like a fascist telling everyone he’s not a fascist but a “concerned citizen” who deeply cares about the “common people”.
Everyone knows, he’s a fascist but they like the momentum he gives their party and they fall for the illusion, that he can be controlled once he’s in office.
The post title seems to be satirizing a common argument between factions on the left / centre-left. It can generally apply to various issues (say, universal health care or police reform) but US support for Israel is the current point of contention.
One side is advocating just to make sure Kamala gets the presidency and Trump is defeated, after which point (they say) she can be pressured to ‘move left’ on the subject of Israel, which would mean to enforce an arms embargo on Netanyahu in order to put a halt to the killing in Gaza.
The other side (which is the position being advocated by this meme) are saying no, it doesn’t work like that with Democrats – they profess to be in favor of change and progressive values but once in power, they’ll be under the boot of big money donors and lobbyists in Washington. If you want to pressure on Kamala on Israel (they say) the time to do it is now, while she’s desperate to get elected.
At this stage I don’t belabor the point on what is far left/left/center/right/far right because it really depends on where the Overton window currently is in your society and culture.
The frame of reference I used above was specifically from a mainstream US perspective.
Are there any studies on the Overton window and if it’s affects are real or more specifically relevant to leftist ideals?
Everything I’ve found on it indicates it’s a useful tool for shifting the political conversation towards more authoritarian rule but there is nothing in it being used to shift towards progressivism.
Maybe this is just me, but in the past two decades in which I’ve been politically active, and in what I’ve studied of the past, I have never seen anyone ever support a strategy of trying to move already-elected politicians further left.
If anything, the discourse is usually about how presidents look more conservative than they are because conservatives have had control of Congress for all but a few months of the past 40 years.
Biden ended up being further left than I thought he would be, but I don’t remember anyone suggesting pre-election that he could be pushed further left.
is this some right wing nutter meme in disguise?
But why? It look more like a fascist telling everyone he’s not a fascist but a “concerned citizen” who deeply cares about the “common people”. Everyone knows, he’s a fascist but they like the momentum he gives their party and they fall for the illusion, that he can be controlled once he’s in office.
The post title seems to be satirizing a common argument between factions on the left / centre-left. It can generally apply to various issues (say, universal health care or police reform) but US support for Israel is the current point of contention.
One side is advocating just to make sure Kamala gets the presidency and Trump is defeated, after which point (they say) she can be pressured to ‘move left’ on the subject of Israel, which would mean to enforce an arms embargo on Netanyahu in order to put a halt to the killing in Gaza.
The other side (which is the position being advocated by this meme) are saying no, it doesn’t work like that with Democrats – they profess to be in favor of change and progressive values but once in power, they’ll be under the boot of big money donors and lobbyists in Washington. If you want to pressure on Kamala on Israel (they say) the time to do it is now, while she’s desperate to get elected.
That’s the far right and centre right. There is no left major political party.
But yes electing more progressive government shifts the Overton window and gets us closer to leftism.
At this stage I don’t belabor the point on what is far left/left/center/right/far right because it really depends on where the Overton window currently is in your society and culture.
The frame of reference I used above was specifically from a mainstream US perspective.
Are there any studies on the Overton window and if it’s affects are real or more specifically relevant to leftist ideals?
Everything I’ve found on it indicates it’s a useful tool for shifting the political conversation towards more authoritarian rule but there is nothing in it being used to shift towards progressivism.
Maybe this is just me, but in the past two decades in which I’ve been politically active, and in what I’ve studied of the past, I have never seen anyone ever support a strategy of trying to move already-elected politicians further left.
If anything, the discourse is usually about how presidents look more conservative than they are because conservatives have had control of Congress for all but a few months of the past 40 years.
Biden ended up being further left than I thought he would be, but I don’t remember anyone suggesting pre-election that he could be pushed further left.
There were tons of people on Twitter saying that.
No Democrat candidate has ever been successfully pushed left after being elected.