• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Extremely unfun fact: before even the Jews, they came for LGBTQ+ people. The first major Nazi book burning was at the Institute For Sexuality which, apart from being a research institute dealing with all sorts of “nonstandard” sexuality in a scholarly rather than punitive manner, was also the world’s first trans clinic.

    The reason it’s not mentioned is that Pastor Niemöller, being a conservative pastor, didn’t see anything wrong with the persecution and erasure of LGBTQ+ people.

    One of the reasons it’s important to remember that the LGBTQ+ community were the first targets of concerted Nazi erasure even though they were far from the first targets of nazi hatred and slander is that the GOP are doing the same thing and they’ll go through the rest of the list too if they aren’t stopped.

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      Worth mentioning that Magnus Hirschfeld (guy who ran the Institute For Sexuality) was Jewish, and that is a big part of the reason why his institute was attacked. According to Nazi propaganda, his institute (and queerness in general) was a Jewish plot to weaken the white race.

      Which goes to show, fascist propaganda hasn’t changed all that much since then!

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      Also important to remember when people are talking about queer identities being a “new trend” or whatever

      It’s not

      We just got erased from history

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      This is also why people think being trans is a “new” thing. The Institute For Sexuality was the first and only place performing research and on trans people and offering gender affirming care. When the Nazi book burnings happened, they burned the entirety of the world’s research on trans people.

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      Some LGBTQ+ people even vote for conservatives, as too do black, disabled, women, other non-white “minorities” (I put in quotes b/c white people are actually the minority in the USA now, but on the other hand that fact doesn’t seem to matter one bit to those who use that term the most… Edit: sorry I misremembered, it is only the under-18 crowd where that is true for now).

      And these people are shocked, Shocked I tell you, SHOCKED when the conservative party eventually turns on them. I know, shocking, right?

      They don’t understand that the result of pyramid-thinking is by its very nature exclusive rather than inclusive (Innuendo Studios video “There’s Always a Bigger Fish” + Endnote video “The Origins of Conservatism”). They haven’t been excluded from it - YET! - but they will, it is only a matter of time. It’s karma. What is done - and allowed to be done - to others, can easily be done to YOU.

      Ironically, Jesus Himself said “Treat others as you would wish they would do for you, in fact, even better than that - and nobody gets excluded from that”. Also the Bible says a bunch of other stuff - the worker deserves their wages, live & let live, and so, so much else that just flat gets ignored by the people using it as a club to beat someone with.

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          Okay yeah I misremembered my terms - whiteness is on its way out, and in fact the under-18 crowd has white as a minority already, though I forgot for a moment that the rest of the age groups won’t catch up until the next decade or two as the Boomers and such die off. White people tend to have fewer children than non-white people, so that’s just how that works.

          More important is the fact that conservative voters are in the minority, and have been for a long time. While not precisely the same thing, it is somewhat related.

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        6 months ago

        Just because some fascists are Jewish doesn’t mean that many fascists, Trump himself included, can’t be antisemitic.

        Even if he wasn’t, that wouldn’t negate any of the other warning signs about the GOP, remade into a fascist party in his image. And no, that’s not hyperbole either. The GOP and its adherents literally embody all 14 common features of fascism.

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          This is exactly what I’m talking about. There’s not a sitting head of government or majority leader that doesn’t check those boxes. Biden does it easily. Trumps not antisemitic, he’s a NY property developer been surrounded by Jews his whole life, and literally an Israel supporter.