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  • Lemmy isn’t even at a point 2 minor version yet so it will be awhile before it is stable and these kind of kinks worked out, but this kind of thing is going to somewhat the norm I think, by design.

    Beehaw defederated Lemmy.world, and they are both have large communities. Although we federate with them both, depending on who/where it was posted the source of truth may result in not always getting consistent updates from both.

    I believe the reality in federated space is you will always want to have an account on all the more active instances, using one local as your primary and monitoring things you want to follow on multiple. Luckily the official app makes it pretty easy to do, and maybe there is another app, or one in the works, that will do a client side merge across accounts.









  • I’ve found this in particular with lemmy.world with posts made on lemmy.ml communities, which seems to be the case in your example as well (the community you posted to is ThinkPad@lemmy.ml).

    Lemmy.world has been defederated in at least one high profile case. I have a suspicion .ml may have defederated as well without announcing (unless maybe we have defederated them here @lemmy.ca? Still working out how source of truth works myself). edit: checked, both still list .world as linked

    If an instance defederates another it means they will not accept engagement from that instance. However, if that instance does not reciprocate the defederation they still get a copy, and it is isolated to their instance. Ie. Comments/votes only appear on that instance and the instances they federate with.

    Not entirely sure though as I would think that means lemmy.world would still receive edit/deletion broadcasts which it doesn’t from my experience. So maybe just a bug.

    Basically, at least from my experiments, Lemmy.world gets the original post / comment, and all engagement on the lemmy.world instance stays isolated there (lemmy.world has a large user base therefore often more engagement).

    This is going to be an ongoing problem for folks because there really isn’t a way to see who (instance) is talking to who (instance) (edit: incorrect; a user pointed out a place to check, but it isn’t always going to be clear unless you constantly check). Without a platform wide policy of mutual, reciprocal defederation, there is going to be a lot of fractured discussion users will never be notified of.

    *edit: may not be an issue with defed. See comment below.




  • Lemmy is still in very early development and there seems to be a lot of issue with signup (which sucks as most people will just give up). I’ve had it work sometimes in one browser, then not other times but work in another. Doesn’t seem to be browser or platform specific, just timing or change in what values are being used. It doesn’t return any user feedback to the user on validation or other error so all problems look the same at the moment.