and if you account for taxation it’ll be even less

I think some of the confusion here might be that this comic is specifically referencing booting out bigots and their apologists.

if someone is willing to argue in bad faith (in this case, specifically bigots), there is no reason to listen to that or anything else they have to say since they’ve shown they are willing to argue in bad faith at all. I also think anyone who is an apologist of them is also not worth listening to because they are in bad faith by proxy.

that being said, it’s perfectly okay to have people arguing in good faith while coming to different conclusions. there can be disagreement and that is healthy as you’ve said.

yeah, I had a similar thought about curators, but in my mind, if the curators own a single self-contained platform, they will inevitably become corrupt. so if that’s true, let there be many instances and individuals can choose what to trust.

I think a platform like this would be very different from lemmy or something because instances/communities/whatever would be internally incentivized to keep the quality of reviews high for their own sake (which others could benefit from too). maybe that manifests as heavily controlling sign ups or new members are able to post reviews but need to be approved in some way to have their reviews included in the overall instance stats. just spit balling, but I think mechanics that assist that will be very important.

being open source does guard the code, but I think the far more important part is the running platform and its data. I imagine any platform like this will want to own all of its data, so anyone setting up a new deploy would completely start from scratch. if nothing else, people would have to recreate their accounts and attempt to recreate their data. and if past attempts to get people to switch platforms is any indication, I think that would be very difficult.

these are pretty interesting! I don’t really like that the infra/data is centralized. always leaves room for bad actors to come along, whether they buy out the project or manipulate reviews.

would be cool if there are any projects out there that are doing something federated so you can choose which sets of review data you want to trust, I wonder if it’s possible to extend or plugin to ActivityPub.

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I think you’re still right though. regardless of the situation with HP, he still created a company that, when sold, made him a billionaire. I don’t think that is possible without also exploiting people.

ribbed for his pleasure

my preference is Xitter (pronounced shitter)

we just need to make sure that we don’t rely on their instance(s) too heavily so we only have minimal losses when they eventually do drop support.

it may be more comprehensive than trying to scrape other platforms, but the data that is available is absolutely nothing compared to what they collect on their own platforms. they’re almost certainly not very concerned with collecting our relatively mild amount of data.

not that i don’t think you could ask about them here, but there are a number of self host communities that you should check out, here are two of the bigger ones:

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i learned about GNU Taler the other day from one of the OS communities

hmm that sounds really interesting! if you end up remembering it and also remember to respond i’d love to know lol. yeah i hope if something good enough comes along two platforms will implement and then others will just follow suit.

that’s all very fair, i guess i was just hoping federation was at least on a long term roadmap

yeah, i agree that i don’t think federation of something like this would be through ActivityPub (matrix has its own). i guess it just feels unfortunate that if users want to access communities across multiple instances, users will have to have separate logins and identities for each one.

i looked into revolt and pretty concerned with these two stances of the project

We don’t think federation is beneficial to Revolt

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We have a variety of monetisation ideas lined up internally, with these, it is not my intention for us to paywall features and I find it unlikely we would ever do that considering it would contradict what we’re trying to achieve.

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like, to me it seems they want to get communities invested and then later monetize in ways those communities don’t yet know about?? idk that sounds extremely sus. especially when competing instances will fight against network effects with no federation.

from what i understand, the real world hybrid data is significantly worse than its WLTP test data. so much worse that it’s only a 25% improvement over petrol/diesel instead of the 75% improvement that would be expected given the WLTP.

just a reminder that IQ tests may have the goal of measuring intelligence, but that says nothing of their precision and accuracy

I wish we would just keep adding E’s so long threads would be REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

which also happens to be the noise I make when I see them.

we also live in a world which has now known that premise and used it for 300 years, which makes it seem much more trivial than it was at the time.