As someone that supported BDS years before oct 7, I don’t think it’s fair to fault someone for learning new politics. Especially considering how these events demonstrate the utter failure of our media to cover this topic with even an ounce of non-partisanship.

Huh?

Insulting me won’t change what the US does and it seems like you still struggle with the actual question. How do you justify the US continuing to send bombs to Israel to enact a genocide?

The Jewish people have the right to a home state as facing antisemitism has been a distinct reality of their cultural past.

No. No one has the right to an ethnostate.

I suppose my difficulty is in understanding why you’re still replying and/or not blocking me. You have no obligation to reply, I am not obliged to ignore yours because you’ve said you’re done. I still have yet to have a meaningful answer from you, so I continue to ask; if not freely given by America, how would Israel get hundreds of billions of dollars in bombs?

Who is “this expert?”

The idea that China and Russia have such a great interest in the state of Israel that the would collectively give even half of what the US gives is utterly insane. You’re being challenged because what your saying is nonsense. Again, even if they could cobble together enough support to find trade deals would pale in to what the US gives for free. The idea that the commitments the US has to Israel are so ironclad that we have to keep sending more bombs to a state committing genocide, shows how absurd your view is.

It’s clear you have some significant cognitive dissidence over the reality of what the US is doing to aid an active genocide by a rogue state that committing acts of terror and escalating tensions in an unstable region. With that you’ve picked some number of experts that support your delusion, and harp on how impossible it would be to stop, on how they would find some other way. There is nothing that would be comparable to what the US gives to Israel, and the US has no obligation to give weapons to those committing war crimes. Stop lying to yourself and admit that this blood is on America’s hands.

I am not asking for all the answers, I am asking where could they get a fraction of the support they currently have?

I will grant you some things are complicated. “How do we get enough bombs to commit genocide” is a complicated question, and Israel currently has a single and seemingly endless answer in the US. So the one question I continue to have is where else would they go to replace what the US does for them? If it would make it more difficult and reduce the ability to commit a genocide, isn’t that better?

I find it interesting that you were so confident before saying ‘they would just go to China or Russia’, but instantly fall to nebulous “negotiations would ensue” and cries of the complicated nature when getting any push back.

The lone question you still seem so adverse to considering: If they didn’t get billions in bombs from the US, how else could Israel do this? Because you seem to believe with such certainty they could.

The point is you can say “it’s complicated” about anything in the real world, yet things still happen. So the question, I’m still asking:

If the group that is currently giving all the of weapons used stopped, where else could their weapons come from? What are some possibilities that would be even remotely close? And if at the end of all the considerations it’s a drastic reduction in how much violence they can do, or their ability to expand their violence in the region, isn’t that still better?

Genuinely, who in the world has the capacity to give the level of aid the US gives to Israel. You say they would go to someone and don’t want to predict who it would be, then give a list. What countries would be able and remotely willing to even a 10th of what the US gives to Israel?

You really think China and Russia would give billions of free weapons to Israel?

So… when America just- stops sending them arms, the next bidder steps in. That’s what happens. And that’s going to be either China or Russia.

lol, holy shit

Why defend an ethnostate?

In 1948 Britain gave away land they had colonized to another colonial project.

Scabbing for reddit mod clout is utterly wild.