Apple has been quiet about ChatGPT. Now Tim Cook says its hefty $22.6 billion research spend is down to generative AI.::The company’s research and development spending hit $22.61 billion for the year so far, a figure $3.12 billion higher than this time last year.

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    Innovation is making an invention into a successful product. Before iPhone there were no successful smartphones. Same with ipads.

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      Wait, what? I literally name-dropped the most successful smartphone in history prior to the iPhone. The BlackBerry predates the iPhone by almost a decade.

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        What you’re saying is technically true but the BlackBerry was mostly a business phone and the iPhone was successful with the consumer market. Also, the iPhones success has dwarfed the BlackBerry’s even at its height. And, calling the 2007 era BlackBerry a smartphone is a little bit of a stretch. It was smarter than the other phones of that era but it was not smart by today’s standards and when we talk about smartphones we’re usually referring to modern phones with touchscreen displays.

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        You said

        But what the iPhone did was put it all into an attractive package that worked really well with Apple’s services.

        And where is the BlackBerry design now. The iPhone design isn’t just an “attractive package.” Back then, there were phones with a stylus, clamshells/sliding designs, and full keyboards. Now any modern smartphone is based off the original iPhone design.

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          That’s a different subject. You said:

          Before iPhone there were no successful smartphones.

          I was responding to that. It’s factually incorrect. The BlackBerry existed first, it was a smartphone, and it was successful until competition from Apple (and eventually Android) rendered it obsolete.

          I’m not arguing that the BlackBerry was particularly great. I’m not arguing that the iPhone wasn’t better in many ways. It’s just that claiming the iPhone was the first “successful smartphone” is just wrong.

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            The iPhone transformed the world. Blackberry still innovativated Business phones but did not have the impact the iPhone had.

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              Man, are you even listening to yourself, let alone reading what I wrote? You’ve confused me for someone who is claiming the iPhone didn’t have an impact on the world, and I never said that.

              I said - please actually read this - that the BlackBerry was a successful smartphone before the iPhone. That’s it! That’s the entirety of my thesis on this topic. I’m not saying it was better (it wasn’t), I’m not saying the iPhone didn’t steal its lunch (it sure as heck did)… All I’m saying is that when you claimed there were no successful smartphones before the iPhone, that was inaccurate.

              That’s it! That’s all there is to it!

              Now, the appropriate thing to do here is to recognize the BlackBerry came first, recognize that it was profitable for years until better smartphones arrived, and say something like, “You’re right, that was an incorrect statement that I hadn’t fully thought through.”

              Then we can put a pin in that particular topic, call it done, and discuss whatever other topics you’d like to discuss. I’m genuinely game for a debate on whether or not the iPhone was “innovative” or what the appropriate definition of the word even is. Seems like a really interesting discussion. But before I go down that path, I need to know that we have a shared understanding of what the history of these devices really was, because if we don’t we’ll just end up talking past each other.

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                People on this app get personal so quickly its not fun. Been here a week and more hate hit me than in 12 years of reddit. Calm tf down.

                Blackberry was not a smartphone in my opinion. You are right with the rest and you can consider blackberry a smartphone if you want to. We can have different opinions.

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                  I don’t hate you, and I’m not throwing hate your way. I’m just a little exasperated, that’s all.

                  Look… A smartphone is defined as a device that combines mobile telephone functions and computing functions into one unit. By that definition, the BlackBerry definitely qualified. If you’re using a different definition - for example, one that requires a full-body touchscreen and no physical keyboard - that’s fine, it’s just important that we agree on what we’re talking about. I’m using the traditional definition and you’re not, I guess.

                  That’s OK, just as long as we both know.

                  So let’s move on.

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            Owned an LG Prada. It was really only similar in photos.