The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July. All told, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaners say Biden’s win was not legitimate, up from 63% earlier this year and through last fall, even as there is no evidence of election fraud that would have altered the outcome of the contest.

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    1 year ago

    Ok but what if, now hear me out… the Democrats were correct about 2016 and 2000?

    Dunno about 2000, I was 4 years old, but 2016 was the typical action movie “evil foreign hackers hijacking our great 'Murrican democracy” thing, only told by Democrats. That is, as somebody living in Russia I can’t take this seriously.

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      1 year ago

      Russian interference was proven to be true.

      Not to mention, if you want to talk about a comically evil villain, invading Ukraine was a comically evil villain thing to do.

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        Proven by whom?

        Not to mention, if you want to talk about a comically evil villain, invading Ukraine was a comically evil villain thing to do.

        And how do you imagine that comical villain managing a much more complex operation?

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          NRA takes foreign money. NRA takes American donors money. NRA does gun education. NRA does political ads for Trump. It is illegal for foreign money to pay for political ads. NRA takes the Russian money, uses it to do gun education. NRA take the American donor’s money that was going to gun education and puts it towards Trump ads. Perfectly legal money laundering, but still Russian interference.

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            It’s not about interference, it’s about that interference being sufficient to call Trump’s victory a result of Russian interference. And if it’s logical OR of all inputs, then I’m sure you can call Biden’s victory the same.

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          Russian interference was proven in the Mueller report.

          Bad faith trolls like to scream “the Mueller report exhonerated Trump” which is wrong. It concluded that Russian interference was real, and there was evidence of collision with the Trump campaign, but insufficient evidence to charge him of the crime.

          Russia’s #1 export is misinformation troll farms. It’s really decided to make itself the shitstain of the entire planet.

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            Oh, I’m not arguing there was some input of power in that direction. Be it by Russia or by Turkey\Azerbaijan or by Israel or by Saudi Arabia or whatever, I’m arguing that its results are negligible and it doesn’t explain Trump winning at all.

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      Because everyone knows Russian citizens know everything their Putzin leader is up to. Too funny.