Speaker of the House Mike Johnson has a history of harsh anti-gay language from his time as an attorney for a socially conservative legal group in the mid-2000s.
I get what you’re saying, just be a little careful with this idea. As a gay person it’s somewhat disheartening to see everytime some ass hole homophobe is trying to opress us people go “oh he must be gay, lol.” It can come across as using gay as an insult which I think your edit acknowledges. Not that internally repressed homophobes who take it out on others aren’t sometimes a thing of course, but just remember the vast majority of people opressing, abusing, and hurting the lgbtq community are straight people, it’s not just gay people taking it out on themselves. There aren’t nearly enough gay people in existence for that to be even remotely true.
As a gay person, myself, I never saw comments like this as using gay as an insult because what’s being called out here is the hypocrisy, not whether or not they’re gay. Intelligent people will realize that, and the dumb bigots are going to be dumb bigots regardless.
No I didn’t think the commenter meant gay as an insult to be clear, just that if not carefully phrased it may come off that way. I know the hypocrisy is the main pont. I think that makes sense if it’s like, a story about someone being caught with a rent boy or something sure. In this case though I didn’t see anything in this story to provide any evidence that this person is anything but straight.
I’ve just noticed this tendency that for any anti gay politician, the comments will immediately fill up with tons of people insinuating well that politician must be gay then. It starts to feel like it’s a insinuation that all homophobia is just gay people doing it to themselves or something. Or like makes homophobia into a “gay problem” that straight people have nothing to do with. Which obviously isn’t the case.
I know it seems like a stereotype, but it does happen not infrequently that gay-hating GOP politicians get outed in embarrassing ways as massive hypocrites, and not even always as gays. Hypocrisy is a major cornerstone of the GOP.
I have no skin in this game, just wanna say that there has to be some level of ego-syntonicity involved for this asswipe to even think about non-het sex and the people who engage in it. He’s not just repelled by it, he’s fascinated by it: that literally has nothing to do with gay people, but everything to do with himself.
In other words, there has to be something extremely compelling in it for him personally, or he wouldn’t be thinking about it so much.
And if there’s one thing we’ve all learned about Mike Johnson R-La today, it’s that he has spent a LOT of time – and I do mean FAR more than all the average straight folk I have ever known – thinking, talking, and writing about the very subject he claims to be so repelled by.
For the record, het and non-het are the same to me in that I honestly don’t care what people get up to.
It’s literally none of my business. I just want you to be safe and happy and enjoy the same rights that I do.
But when hate-filled, self-blind freaks like Johnson start coming out with “these people must die” for no reason other than that “these people” exist, I absolutely have to entertain the very real possibility that the fervency of his hatred is a projection – along with the absolute certainty that whatever his fucking problem is, it is 100% himself, his own, and no one else’s.
I hear you and agree. Not all loud, dramatic anti-gay people are actually saying, “Hey! Look what I’m not! At all! Not even that one time in college!” - but it sure seems to pan out that way with politicians.
Yeah, there is a reason we find out about these things through leaks and such: Gay republicans have to hide themselves or else face the bigotry that exists within their colleagues/constituents.
Still dumb fuck hypocrites though.
“Use my marginalization to oppress me, at least I pay $3.75 less in taxes.”
I remember a story I once heard from a trans woman who’d been working as a prostitute back in the 80s. She had a virulently homophobic politician for a regular client and once asked him why a man who routinely paid to suck a woman’s dick would do that. Apparently the way he saw it was that the constituents wanted it, and if he wouldn’t do it they’d find someone else who would.
I think about that sometimes. What absolute moral cowardice. I hope I’m never as weak as him to live a lie purely for the power to do what I don’t want. And I get angry that at the end of that story she was the one worse off.
Exactly! And you can see sometimes when a politician is uncomfortable with something but supports it anyways. Whether it’s Ted Cruz simping for the man who publicly called his wife ugly or Hillary Clinton clearly not getting modern social issues. That’s why people make politicians say certain things, it makes it clear what they’re expected to do.
It’s just happened so many times. All these evangelical preachers who are filled with hate based rhetoric especially when it comes to homophobia in general. It seems to me they turn out to be repressed homosexuals in the end, so many times. Be gay be happy be proud.
But these mother fuckers are homophobes. Why would you care that much about what other people are doing in their own bedrooms? He’s obviously obsessed with it and feels like his own impulses are somehow morally wrong. I can’t claim to understand the self hatred that brings someone down this path, but he is also in a position of power, and he needs to be called out on it.
In my opinion, calling him gay is an insult only because he would consider it to be one, even though we all know there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it.
But you’re right, I hear you and am gonna think about it some more. I hope you’re doing well out there.
Yeah we aren’t the ones sending our children to be tortured for being gay.
Either straight people are rare, homophobia is rare, or there are a lot of homophobic straight people.
Yeah the people who solely dedicate their lives to homophobia are often queer in some form, but they teach those people to hate themselves, reward them for it, then enable their torturing of others of us. McCarthy may have tried to purge homosexuality from the federal government, but 99 senators who weren’t found to be in gay relationships helped.
I get what you’re saying, just be a little careful with this idea. As a gay person it’s somewhat disheartening to see everytime some ass hole homophobe is trying to opress us people go “oh he must be gay, lol.” It can come across as using gay as an insult which I think your edit acknowledges. Not that internally repressed homophobes who take it out on others aren’t sometimes a thing of course, but just remember the vast majority of people opressing, abusing, and hurting the lgbtq community are straight people, it’s not just gay people taking it out on themselves. There aren’t nearly enough gay people in existence for that to be even remotely true.
As a gay person, myself, I never saw comments like this as using gay as an insult because what’s being called out here is the hypocrisy, not whether or not they’re gay. Intelligent people will realize that, and the dumb bigots are going to be dumb bigots regardless.
No I didn’t think the commenter meant gay as an insult to be clear, just that if not carefully phrased it may come off that way. I know the hypocrisy is the main pont. I think that makes sense if it’s like, a story about someone being caught with a rent boy or something sure. In this case though I didn’t see anything in this story to provide any evidence that this person is anything but straight.
I’ve just noticed this tendency that for any anti gay politician, the comments will immediately fill up with tons of people insinuating well that politician must be gay then. It starts to feel like it’s a insinuation that all homophobia is just gay people doing it to themselves or something. Or like makes homophobia into a “gay problem” that straight people have nothing to do with. Which obviously isn’t the case.
I know it seems like a stereotype, but it does happen not infrequently that gay-hating GOP politicians get outed in embarrassing ways as massive hypocrites, and not even always as gays. Hypocrisy is a major cornerstone of the GOP.
I have no skin in this game, just wanna say that there has to be some level of ego-syntonicity involved for this asswipe to even think about non-het sex and the people who engage in it. He’s not just repelled by it, he’s fascinated by it: that literally has nothing to do with gay people, but everything to do with himself.
In other words, there has to be something extremely compelling in it for him personally, or he wouldn’t be thinking about it so much.
And if there’s one thing we’ve all learned about Mike Johnson R-La today, it’s that he has spent a LOT of time – and I do mean FAR more than all the average straight folk I have ever known – thinking, talking, and writing about the very subject he claims to be so repelled by.
For the record, het and non-het are the same to me in that I honestly don’t care what people get up to. It’s literally none of my business. I just want you to be safe and happy and enjoy the same rights that I do.
But when hate-filled, self-blind freaks like Johnson start coming out with “these people must die” for no reason other than that “these people” exist, I absolutely have to entertain the very real possibility that the fervency of his hatred is a projection – along with the absolute certainty that whatever his fucking problem is, it is 100% himself, his own, and no one else’s.
I hear you and agree. Not all loud, dramatic anti-gay people are actually saying, “Hey! Look what I’m not! At all! Not even that one time in college!” - but it sure seems to pan out that way with politicians.
Yeah, there is a reason we find out about these things through leaks and such: Gay republicans have to hide themselves or else face the bigotry that exists within their colleagues/constituents.
Still dumb fuck hypocrites though.
“Use my marginalization to oppress me, at least I pay $3.75 less in taxes.”
I remember a story I once heard from a trans woman who’d been working as a prostitute back in the 80s. She had a virulently homophobic politician for a regular client and once asked him why a man who routinely paid to suck a woman’s dick would do that. Apparently the way he saw it was that the constituents wanted it, and if he wouldn’t do it they’d find someone else who would.
I think about that sometimes. What absolute moral cowardice. I hope I’m never as weak as him to live a lie purely for the power to do what I don’t want. And I get angry that at the end of that story she was the one worse off.
Man, I have tried SO HARD to get people to realize that just because politicians say something, doesn’t mean they believe it.
They are APPEALING TO YOU, not expressing their own held beliefs. Sometimes it overlaps, sometimes it doesn’t.
My dad is a perfect example: he doesn’t necessarily agree with abortion due to his beliefs, but he will ALWAYS support the right to choose.
Exactly! And you can see sometimes when a politician is uncomfortable with something but supports it anyways. Whether it’s Ted Cruz simping for the man who publicly called his wife ugly or Hillary Clinton clearly not getting modern social issues. That’s why people make politicians say certain things, it makes it clear what they’re expected to do.
It’s just happened so many times. All these evangelical preachers who are filled with hate based rhetoric especially when it comes to homophobia in general. It seems to me they turn out to be repressed homosexuals in the end, so many times. Be gay be happy be proud.
But these mother fuckers are homophobes. Why would you care that much about what other people are doing in their own bedrooms? He’s obviously obsessed with it and feels like his own impulses are somehow morally wrong. I can’t claim to understand the self hatred that brings someone down this path, but he is also in a position of power, and he needs to be called out on it.
In my opinion, calling him gay is an insult only because he would consider it to be one, even though we all know there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it.
But you’re right, I hear you and am gonna think about it some more. I hope you’re doing well out there.
Yeah we aren’t the ones sending our children to be tortured for being gay.
Either straight people are rare, homophobia is rare, or there are a lot of homophobic straight people.
Yeah the people who solely dedicate their lives to homophobia are often queer in some form, but they teach those people to hate themselves, reward them for it, then enable their torturing of others of us. McCarthy may have tried to purge homosexuality from the federal government, but 99 senators who weren’t found to be in gay relationships helped.
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