• agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    I stand by my opinion that making a dog become a cop is inhumane to the dog. The dog deserves better if you’re gonna make them have a job, like smelling old people for cancer, or helping people with vision impairments. You know, useful things.

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          I’m just gonna play devil’s advocate here.

          Before the invention of the police, communities took it upon themselves to enforce the law. Oftentimes, militia members would directly write to governors asking for arms, and would also be present in their communities during public events where an armed presence might be necessary. Arrests for members of the community would happen by way of court order first, and then a posse would be formed as a means to enact that court order. Nowhere in the US constitution does the word “police” appear because the idea hadn’t even been conceived at the time of foundation.

          Comparatively, today’s police have far more authority to enact violence and effect arrests than even the courts. Could a court today order a dog to maul a surrendering man? Probably not. But when the police do it, apparently, that’s just the cost of doing business.

          I think the lie is that we need the police and not the other way around.

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            We need a complete overhaul of society and an educated population to help reduce the incentive to commit crime in the first place, then use the wonders of the high technology we have to make investigating crimes easier for everybody so we can go back to taking control of our own streets again.

            It’d take a lot of work to do it, but it’s better than submitting to actual fucking fascism and tyranny because we convince ourselves we’re not capable and need others to do the job of protecting each other for us.

        • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafeOP
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          Dude, their existence prevents the meaningful enforcement of the law. Literally anyone else could do a better job than some thug caste which only pretends to enforce law but doesn’t.

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            You haven’t answered the question. Who should enforce the law? I’m not sure if you have a problem with the concept of police or with the implementation thereof.

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              And here’s bootlicker #2 up in here sealioning just like the other guy, and my response is the same.

              You’d think if they actually were asking in good faith, they’d scroll down to talk to the guy who actually does answer the question at length, but they don’t, so it’s obvious they’re not actually interested.

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                Bro, I’m asking you for your thoughts on an alternative and you just rage on about some perceived slight to your intelligence or what not.

                If you don’t have an alternative, then say so. Stop beating around the bush pretending to hoard some plan you do not possess. It wasn’t a difficult fucking question you nutjob.

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            Let’s take the thought a step further and ask; who’s existence wouldn’t prevent the meaningful enforcement of the law?

            IMO police, or something to that nature, are pretty necessary in today’s society, but the boundaries they have, are stepped over time and time again, without the proper repercussions.

            What’s your take?

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              For those watching at home, what this bootlicker is doing is sealioning. It involves asking questions for which the answers will never be satisfactory while pretending to be nice and civil.

              His line of reasoning is this:

              • These stupid fucking liberals have no plan for what to do after the police are removed

              • So let’s ask them what do we do afterward?

              • Then we either deconstruct every answer they provide or call them out on having no answer

              • Then disingenuously dismiss the idea of getting rid of police as ill thought out and immature when we never had any intention of conceding the point to begin with, because we want police to continue subjugating and abusing people, because we are bigots


              Because their justification for having police is:

              • The people are not capable or mature enough to conduct criminal investigations, arrest suspects or humanely punish them (even though that’s literally what humanity has been doing for thousands of years and the institution of police has proven itself wholly incapable of those tasks and even worse, directly causing and enabling the crime it’s supposedly there to mitigate, and the prison system the police run is completely fucking inhumane)

              • Therefore the people need an institution of professionals to do it for them (even though police are not trained to conduct formal investigations, forensic science is not a legitimate science at all and is completely broken at best, and humanity has again managed to exist thousands of years in peace and happiness without thug castes and only suffer when they are there)


              And ignoring the fact that bootlickers like him are deeply insulting the intelligence of everyone else in the discussion and this clown is clearly NOT being nice at all because he’s advocating for your brutal subjugation under the jackboot of sadistic racists that only want to bully, abuse, rape and murder you, other individuals have already answered the question effectively, so why am I going to entertain scum like him?

              So here’s what I am gonna say to him instead:

              How about instead of wasting our time sealioning to push a line of reasoning designed to manipulate our fears and put down our self esteem and self worth in order to convince us to accept an obviously failed institution that causes nothing but harm and abuses us in horrific ways, you take your fake attitude and go fuck yourself with it?

              What’s your take on that?

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    That day, Rose joined a long list of Black Americans attacked by police dogs, a history well documented by journalists, academics and filmmakers.

    For some, the scenes harken back to the Civil Rights Movement, when authorities often turned dogs and firehoses on peaceful Black protesters marching for equality.

    The FBI opened an investigation into the police department in Woodson Terrace, Missouri, in 2021 after cellphone video showed three officers allowing a dog to repeatedly bite a Black man.

    They were introduced in Southern U.S. states to capture — and sometimes kill — enslaved Black people who escaped, said Madalyn Wasilczuk, a University of South Carolina professor and author of a law journal article titled, “ The Racialized Violence of Police Canine Force.”

    “But when you look at a video of what happens, you see a dog doing what it does with a chew toy, which is it grabs on, it tries to hold on, its head whips back and forth and its teeth are sunk into that body part as deeply as they can.”

    Associated Press writers Rhonda Shafner and Aaron Morrison in New York, Mike Schneider in Orlando, Florida, and Samantha Hendrickson in Columbus, Ohio, contributed to this report.


    The original article contains 1,246 words, the summary contains 200 words. Saved 84%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Why did this article even talk about dogs being used against the civil right protestors in the 1960s?