Is ProtonVPN worth it?

@piracy

Got reminded of this while reading about ProtonMail. The reason I haven’t gotten into proper #piracy is that I don’t have a VPN for torrenting, and the reason I don’t have a VPN is that I don’t #torrent. So it would be nice if I got a good VPN while #degoogling myself.

Will ProtonVPN rat me out to Comcast? I know some VPNs don’t hide what you’re downloading from your ISP, for reasons I don’t fully understand.

  • MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    92·
    1 year ago

    What do you torrent? I set up real-debrid and usenet and literally do not use any torrent sites anymore whatsoever. Everything I download is downloaded at my max bandwidth. I’d recommend spending the money on that setup instead. VPNs are overpriced for what they offer.

        • areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyzEnglish
          31·
          1 year ago

          The whole reason you get a VPN for piracy is to stop you’re ISP from seeing what you are doing. It also allows you to easily unblock indexer websites. What you are suggesting isn’t a replacement for a VPN in anyway and is likeley to lead to you getting caught and potentially banned by you’re ISP.

          • MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            61·
            1 year ago

            Your ISP won’t ban you for visiting “piracy sites”. They’ll only care if they get a subpoena, which you’ll only get if you’re distributing copyrighted material.

          • solitude@lemmy.oneEnglish
            11·
            1 year ago

            If you were to decide to try Usenet, you install a program called SABnzbd (kind of like qBit, it downloads the files - no uploading, downloading only). It has an SSL connection enabled (Secure Sockets Layer, encryption-based internet security protocol). Even without a VPN, they may be able to see that you’re searching you’re indexers (on a program called Prowlarr - searching for a file to DL), but you’re ISP can’t see what you’re downloading on SABnzbd. I still use Mullvad, so I know they can’t see anything I’m doing in regards to searching or DL.

            • areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyzEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              I don’t generally like being talked down to.

              It’s weird you’re recommending advanced tools like Prowlarr to someone without piracy experience. I have used other programs from the Servarr suite like Sonarr and Radarr with BitTorrent and found them to be generally more trouble than they are worth.

              • solitude@lemmy.oneEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                I don’t generally like being talked down to.

                No idea what you’re talking about. I was genuinely trying to provide advice and assistance.

                It’s weird you’re recommending advanced tools like Prowlarr to someone without piracy experience.

                How does someone try to teach and guide another person in more “advanced” things, without them taking it as though they’re being talked down to?

                You’ve had two people who’ve tried to help you now, because you’re comments are clearly coming from a perspective of a person “without piracy experience” (your words).

                You can see my other comments in here. I’m not talking down to anyone. I guess I’ll let you figure out the problem with using BitTorrent or uTorrent on you’re own. GL

                • areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyzEnglish
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  You’ve had two people who’ve tried to help you now, because you’re comments are clearly coming from a perspective of a person “without piracy experience” (your words).

                  My guy I probably have more experience with this than you do. I’ve been doing it for literally years. The only thing I haven’t used is usenet. I might one day but the only advantage I can see is more consistent download speed.

                  No idea what you’re talking about. I was genuinely trying to provide advice and assistance.

                  Really? You talk as if I have no understanding of basic computer terminology like SSL. Like I know these things are encrypted. If you didn’t realize this bittorrent protocol can also be encrypted. Dosen’t stop them seeing who you are connecting to. Since piracy websites are banned you would have a hard time even accessing them without a VPN. Even if they can’t see what you’re downloading specifically they can still see you are accessing a piracy website - imagine trying to use that defense in court.

                  figure out the problem with using BitTorrent or uTorrent on you’re own

                  I was refering to the proctol. You can just say bittorrent since it’s a protocol. I don’t use either of these clients specifically I mainly use qBittorrent.

                  What problem are you even referring to?

                  • solitude@lemmy.oneEnglish
                    2·
                    1 year ago

                    My guy I probably have more experience with this than you do.

                    Based on you’re comments in this thread, no.

                    It’s weird you’re recommending advanced tools like Prowlarr to someone without piracy experience

                    You said the quote above, not me. So which is it? You have more experience than me, or you’re “someone without piracy experience?”

                    Really? You talk as if I have no understanding of basic computer terminology like SSL.

                    How in the world would I know who you are and what your experience level is with SSL? I was simply providing a thorough answer to you or anyone else who would care to read it later. That’s all. Not everything is a personal jab at you and your fragile psyche. You’re being overly sensitive about a non-issue.

                    imagine trying to use that defense in court.

                    For the vast majority of people, that’s never going to happen. If that’s something that definitely can happen in your country (from just viewing a piracy website) then name your country in your comments so most people don’t get confused. Otherwise, you’re blowing it way out of proportion.

                    I was refering to the proctol. You can just say bittorrent since it’s a protocol. I don’t use either of these clients specifically I mainly use qBittorrent.

                    And this confusion is generally why most knowledgeable users talk about “torrenting” instead of naming the protocol, which is also the name of a torrent client that is widely used by newer & uninformed users.

                    Looking at your post history, its clear you just like to argue. Maybe that’s why you thought I was talking down to you, because that’s something you try to do to other people. I came here to help. This conversation is over.

      • MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        9·
        1 year ago

        For movies and tv, there’s nothing better than usenet. Eweka or easynews as your provider, with nzb.su, nzbgeek, or drunkenslug as your indexer and you’ll never look back. Mix that with radarr/sonarr and it’s the best way to download media. Any of the indexers will be like 20-40 buck for life, and eweka/easynews are bout $40 for the year. real-debrid comes out to about $30 per year. All those sites you see that have rapidgator links and stuff like that, real-debrid turns that into an instant download. You can even use it with jdownloader which makes some of the downloads with like 50 different rapidgator links really easy to download.