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    If I saw ICE coming to my door as a minority, I would be shooting. There is no longer a gaurantee you will have a fair case before court, or even a court case at all.

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      They’ve forced children as young as 6 to defend themselves in court with no right to an attorney, and it’s been going on for years. The right to counsel isn’t applied to immigration cases. It’s truly insane, kangaroo court shit.

      If the interpretation that they don’t need a warrant stands, it means that ICE could walk into anybody’s home, abduct their child, accuse them of being an illegal immigrant, do a show trial, and then ship them off to Guantanamo Bay where no press is allowed. Or, for all we know, to Little St. James or anywhere else.

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      If they “believe” a law gives them some right (to enter a home) then I “believe” I have the right to enter their body with a ballistic projectile.

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      Once that line is crossed it’s finally time to get serious!

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        SCOTUS: Homeland security has presumptive immunity for quartering immigrant catchers in the homes of suspected illegals. We deny plantifs request because they should have contested their anlleged immigrant status with the department of state initially. Dismissed with prejudice.

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    Remains unclear whether the Trump administration will apply the law in this way.

    Uh gestures broadly around

    Pretty certain we can assume that it will.

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    Well if warrants are off the table now, I guess we just start shooting whenever?

    Weird, but whatever. Okay.

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    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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    Never been a better time to end the person breaking into your house.

    Best case: you kill a terrorist and get off on self defense.

    Likely outcome: you eat a dozen bullets and die.

    No defense outcome: you get a free flight to a concentration camp in a country you may or may not have ever been to, you suffer, then you die.

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    Why has no one bitch slapped this idiot and pointed out that there has been no declaration of war and the law in question cannot be legally invoked? Honestly, how does this clown keep getting away with this shit?

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      Probably not as much as the people trying to protect their families. Average household 4-6 people inside? They’ll send 24 then. Double that after the first agent casualty.

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        You be surprised what a family will do. Also ICE doesn’t have that many agents and there’s more community getting involved where ICE can’t drive down the street. Remember the people have more power.

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      Juridical laws aren’t like physical laws. You can change them however you want. There is no any objective limitation.

      So laws work the way the master wants them to.

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        Except this is written law, it’s pretty clear in the constitution. If the state refuses to respect our inalienable rights then the citizens are left with few options on how to respond

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    Don’t forget to stock up on hollow points. Breaking their oath to the Constitution is going to have some repercussions

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        checks instance name

        So there was a show called The Unit. Decent show. Not great but lots of action. It has Dennis Haybert.

        Anyway, there is an episode where they (the delta team) has to secure the president who was running away from a highly armored militia.

        His words: head and groin

        Again, the show is decent. Recommend a watch to those who are into shows like that.

        This reply isn’t related to this thread but just randomly came to mind.

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      There’s no rules anymore. If you find a rule that stops them from protecting the regime or executing the regime’s objectives, they’ll change it. There is no point clinging to any of these written rules. We are slowly entering a war zone. None of the people who could stop this are doing it. I will say this is my own opinion (for now) as a disclaimer… But the way I see it is this: if the military doesn’t turn on trump then it will eventually become the responsibility of the citizens. We’re frogs in boiling water and I am absolutely terrified.