Let me break this down:

Openly defying court orders multiple times= dictatorship Threatening to jail political opponents despite them being pardoned= dictatorship Deporting American citizens who have legal citizenship= dictatorship Can’t put it any simpler.

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    This is happening again and again: judges rule that deportations are illegal, then Trump’s people just kidnap the victim and deport them anyway. A whole lot of people were just deported to a prison in a foreign country whose government has said they will never be released. They will be slave labor for a foreign country until they die, and there was no trial, no due process, no evidence presented for their being guilty of any crime. It’s just the executive branch of the US government kidnapping people and trafficking them into slavery abroad, completely overriding its own judicial system. The USA is already a dictatorship, and it only took a few weeks.

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    22 days ago

    Hey where was the motherfucker arguing they wouldnt deport legal people with me here? Huh? Where ya at?

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      They literally don’t care. All they want is to win an argument against leftists in the moment; they actually see it as a weakness to be beholden to facts.

      They’re playing a different “game” entirely, one where rhetoric is more important than reality.

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        By doing what?

        And “Americans” you mean all 341 million people? All agreeing to do the same thing? Like your statement is so meaningless to the point of stupidity

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          I know, which is why Americans are fucked. They don’t even have a shared history, let alone reality or morals. I mean, most Americans don’t know about how the police dropped bombs on Philadelphia in 1985, let alone even protest or start a riot over it. 341 million Americans agreed not to riot over that one.

          I also struggle to see how “Africans are to blame for global warming” the same way Americans are to blame for their own countrymen’s actions.

          EDIT - Just to add, I find it intriguing that you’re so quick to blame Africans for the sake of a strawman argument. Not a good look, kinda looks American.

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      Everything they do suggests the goal is just to ruin the USA and its (former) allies.

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    22 days ago

    Constitutional crisis time! Who’s ready to defend their rights and fight for democracy!

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      22 days ago

      “I’ll stand peacefully on a sidewalk holding up a sign to defend democracy, so long as no harm comes to me.” - Americans

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    22 days ago

    Whoever ignored that order should be held in contempt. You don’t just “whoopsie” a judge’s order.

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    Though the Trump administration did not initially detail their rationale for detaining Alawieh, Hilton Beckham, the assistant commissioner of public affairs for Customs and Border Protection, told HuffPost that "arriving aliens bear the burden of establishing admissibility to the United States.”

    Which a valid visa is literally proof of, you ridiculously named fascist henchcritter! 🤦🤬

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    Deporting American citizens who have legal citizenship= dictatorship

    What legal citizens have been deported?

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      I know you are just nitpicking on whether the current dictatorship has an official policy to deport American citizens, but I want to clarify, for the benefit of anyone else who might not be aware of this, that the American government has in fact already deported multiple American citizens by mistake. This GAO investation found that while ICE doesn’t keep track of such stats, based on the data that is available it must report that indeed “ICE and CBP took enforcement actions against some U.S. citizens.” The numbers are in the hundreds-arrests-per-year range, and dozens-per-year deportations. There are many interviews in the press with American citizens who say they were illegally detained or deported. Some Americans had to sneak back across the border after being illegally deported. Many Americans sued and won settlements for their illegal deportations, so now it is official court record that such events happened.

      This is not just a matter of ambiguity, cases of “who can really know whether that person was a citizen or not”. These are cases where CBP has been clearly negligent, where the victims had been able to procure for display real birth certificates, real passports, and the agents wouldn’t look at them. The court-appointed lawyers would “lose” the documents and claim none were received in front of the judge, or there would not even be court hearings at all, just deportations. When sued later, no one would take responsibility, no one reprimanded, just settlements paid out. Sometimes the CBP would get sued, receive a court judgement affirming that the victim was a citizen who was unlawfully deported, then ignore the judgement and deport them again. This has all already happened… under past administrations. The implication is that the willful negligence under the current one will not get better.

  • ✨🫐🌷🌱🌌🌠🌌🌿🪻🥭✨@sh.itjust.works
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    Why are all these big deportation stories about hezbolah people and gang members that we are supposed to be sympathizing with and vocally defending?

    The AntiDeportation stories I would like to support are like ‘nice mom that is just nice and not part of any gang nor anything illegal deported horribly from her 5 nice kids’. Give us those stories please. I am totally happy not having gang member neighbors. Why would I want that or sympathize with them?

    the mom that worked in the big illegal weed op is the closest so far. I am totally for weed and in a place it’s legal, but I understand that, if she makes money on the smuggling of weed from legal to illegal places, it will be bad for her when she’s caught. That was not controversial to me. It shouldnt be that way, but it wasnt unusually controversial.

    are there no actual innocent nice people being immorally deported? That seems crazy to me, but where are the stories?

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      What you are missing about why we are actually enraged is the complete lack of evidence of their crimes or any kind of due process. Everybody deserves to be heard by the court.

      Even if you don’t care about immigrants, you should realize that if they can be targeted and punished without evidence, then you can be too.

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          It’s part of the strategy – publicly condemn people as being the type of person that is easy to hate so that there is support for the punishment.

          If he started disappearing people without giving any reason, his supporters would be more likely to take note of that and question him. “Violent criminals and terrorists” on the other hand, that the people can get behind, apparently without question.

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      No mention of gang involvement or anything illegal whatsoever from the female doctor deported in the article you’re commenting on - so you’re just spouting nonsense.