Summary

Key leaders of the “Abandon Harris” movement, which encouraged voters to oppose Kamala Harris due to U.S. support for Israel during the Gaza war, are now expressing unease about Trump’s incoming administration.

Many in the movement, including prominent Muslim leaders, voted for Trump hoping he would bring peace to the Middle East.

However, concerns are growing over his Cabinet picks, such as Mike Huckabee and Tulsi Gabbard, which some see as troubling for Muslim communities.

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    I voted for Harris. I voted for Biden. I voted for Clinton.

    I still wouldn’t warn a single one of them if they were about to get hit by a bus.

    Its harm reduction. They don’t solve anything. They just keep us treading water sinking slowly whereas Republicans start taking a hammer to the hull to open up new holes.

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      Harm reduction is bad?

      Obviously, it’s not ideal, but one has to act according to the real life conditions… And in 2024, our only two options were “harm reduction,” and literal fascism with literal concentration camps.

      Fuck you if you didn’t choose harm reduction.

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        To be fair to them, we’re just delaying collapse. It is a choice.

        I agree with them that there’s no saving this constitutional structure. In one sense it’s cowardly, because there’s no escape from this capitalist slaughterhouse hellscape without collapse. Collapse is necessary. Trump will certainly usher that in faster.

        But Im too much of a softy to let the blood that always has to spill be on my hands.

        This country was irreparable since Reagan, a zombie nation oligarch piggie bank. My vote was a cowardly one for a few more years of quiet orderly slaughter, NOT peace.

        But we lost, so the slaughter will be loud and bigger than it’s ever been, so maybe it’s time for revolution if we want our kids to have anything left.

        Because in 4 years the DNC WILL anoint someone to meet Trump’s economy in the middle, and even I may not be able to stomach voting for that.

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          Kamala was in a weird place as well.

          Normally it’s easy for people to hold their noses for an incumbent. But if Kamala won. Shed run again in 2028.

          Which would mean from 2012 to 2032, there wouldn’t have been a fair Dem primary.

          20 fucking years…

          Party leaders don’t understand that when you take primaries away, it hurts general turnout. Because regardless of who wins, the primary is the time for the eventual candidate to get their finger on the pulse and see what voters want.

          Which is reliably that the Dem candidate moves left.

          Without a primary they move right and turnout goes down.

          We have literally decades of data that shows this, but it’s not what the donors want and the present DNC wants donations more than votes.

          Hopefully Winkler gets chair in a few months and that changes.

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            The DNC would rather have Trump as POTUS than Sanders or AOC.

            With Trump, the bribe money keeps flowing to both party machines, They are both paid to keep this sociopath owned economy safe from the people.

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            Realistically they weren’t gonna hold a fair primary anyway. If they held one we would’ve gotten candidate Shapiro, who would have been stomped into dust by Trump.

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              In large part because Jaimie Harrison was the DNC chair.

              There’s an upcoming vote for chair, and there’s some standouts and one crazy with no chance.

              But from what I know about them (not everything) we’re almost guaranteed a good chair with a very good chance of getting an amazing one.

              I’m no fan of the DNC, but there’s a real chance to turn everything around and it’s barely a month away

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                Here’s hoping, though remember the people who voted for Harrison are still the ones voting. I remember we did get Howard Dean after his campaign, so hopefully there’s a similar thing that happens.

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                  Jaimie got it because Biden appointed him…

                  He was the only option for DNC members to vote for, it’s a rubber stamp process when a Dem wins the presidential.

                  The only time they really vote is when a Dem president doesn’t win, or the chair resigns early (I think).

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      I voted for Harris. I voted for Biden. I voted for Clinton.

      I still wouldn’t warn a single one of them if they were about to get hit by a bus.

      American Democracy in a nutshell. You get two choices, they’re both awful for different reasons. One of them wants to see you executed for your religious beliefs/sexual preferences/nation of origin. The other is continent to sell bunker buster bombs to some raving psychotic mass murderers overseas. Nobody is going to do shit about climate change, though, so we’re all on the clock in the long run.

      Its harm reduction.

      It increasingly feels like the closest thing to harm reduction the US achieved was the time Trump fucked up his COVID response and a bunch of his senior leadership choked to death on their own lung fluid.