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I think they want to intimidate others, but honestly giving him this much of a spotlight should be the dream of anyone thinking about attacking another CEO for attention.
I don’t see how they don’t see it.
Maybe the cops are playing both sides? I’m definitely giving them too much credit there, but maybe?
While I’m sure there is no love lost towards healthcare execs from even the police, an uptick of “terrorism” could also be used as an excuse to give even more power to the police as well.
I was thinking they are playing it up in hopes of copycats. Basically malicious compliance
copycats
Don’t tease me bro!
Our systems and hierarchies do often support the oligarchy, but that does not mean every single individual supports the oligarchy, or that every single thing our systems do are meant to advance the goals of the ultra rich. Sometimes individuals who participate in these systems do malicious compliance, sometimes they don’t comply at all.
In this case there could be someone high-up who is empathetic(or a group of empathetic people unaware of each other, their actions adding up) whose decisions led to this happening, or this could have just been a dumb decision, who knows.
I dont think they need an excuse, they just do whatever they want now. Thats what electing trump is all about, letting them run amuck unrestrained.
That’s definitely giving them too much credit.
They are probably trying to reduce the number of eligible jurors who would acquit him.
Insurers fuck cops over too. While I doubt it’s an act of solidarity with the rest of us peasants, it could actually be an enemy-of-my-enemy situation where cops find themselves hating UHC as much as the rest of us.
How crazy would it be if the next Luigi is a cop?!
Because their jobs financing is mostly perception based.
Crime can be at an all time low, but all it takes is a politician to rile up the population about murderers and law enforcement and incarceration will end up getting more money.
Be seen as being ineffective, soft or incompetent, especially by those holding the purse strings, and people lose jobs to those who will toe the line.
This is a message to the wealthy “look how seriously we take serving you”
This is the same country that tries to fight radicals in other countries by invading, oppressing, and ultimately creating more radicals. Our elite have little understanding of the socially deviant
They rather kill defenseless children.
Pigs when other pigs choke people to death: I sleep
Pigs when someone touches a mass murdering elite: Real shit
Pigs when someone touches the guy who pays their off-the-books salary: Real shit
Ftfy
I love that Adams is there. He literally has no reason to be there other than self promotion. Do you think they discussed the finer points of being indicted federally? Maybe he is trying to get him to ask for a Trump pardon.
“look at what this man did, not what i’ve done!”
-adams, prob
I guess he’s trying to learn more about prison life before he gets his own perp walk.
He is absolutely doing this to appease trump. Dude is getting hit with terrorism charges here to set up precedent for trump to do whatever the fuck he wants.
I never liked those shoes. They are like a bad knock off of toms. Somehow they even make shittier crocs for jails as well… I remember walking into a Walmart and a guy being like “yo when did you serve” as I was buying a pair of entnies (didn’t know they sold them there, but they were like $25) to finish my 19 mile walk home. Wasn’t sure how he knew at first, then realized he remembered those shitty shoes as well.
(Things not to do in life, get pulled out of bed in the middle of the night by police wearing no shoes and forced to walk across a stone driveway.)
Innocent until proven guilty time and time again proves to be not how our system works. Alleged charges were dismissed and expunged. The impact on my life, not able to be taken back.
Yeah, the criminal justice system in the U.S. causes immeasurable harm. From a probation system designed to keep you in the system, to kids-for-cash-like schemes that I’m convinced are more common than has been prosecuted, to coercive delay tactics. All of which I have personal experience with. I’ve currently been out on bail for 2 years, and someone else in my county has been in jail without trial for 5 years because he can’t afford bail. Not to mention the horrible conditions in many jails and prisons, slave labor, nearly complete lack of rehabilitation, and the system milking the incarcerated’s families for money. I can’t think of any other word to describe it than evil.
I worked government contracts in IT for the last 10 years mostly. After the allegation I failed 3 background checks coming back saying conviction when the case was retired and moved to be dismissed. My entire career was shot save for a 9 month contract I got where they overroad the background check with a lawyers response showing it was a false response on the conviction and due to costs I have literally nothing left. After lawyers and shit… 0 savings, 0 401k, contract over now, took a job for a distributor for a well known brand to pay bills… No background check. Even Kroger’s background check failed me when the case has already been dismissed. It destroyed my life, and I did nothing.
That’s some Kafka-tier bullshit, wtf.
I only know him from literature and trivia questions poised in the U.S.
Care to explain what that means to me? If you don’t want to say so here you can dm me. Truth is often hard to find these days. (AI responses, monetary/ad responses / keyword manipulation)
Kafka wrote stories about confusing, impersonal bureaucracies. So people will describe something as Kafkaesque to convey that sense of being lost in a system.
Specifically in The Trial dude was judged and persecuted by the state without anyone even explaining to him what he did.
Because he didn’t cry at his mother’s funeral, right?
Yeah, the company I was working at got bought out and then they layed the entire tech team and pretty much everyone else. Co-founded a business with coworkers, but it’s not bringing in any revenue and not sure it ever will bring in very much, so have been applying to jobs. Only got a few interviews, then ghosted afterwards. I’m guessing a part of it is I have a criminal charge pending, and the first thing you see on Google when you search my name and town is one of those mugshot websites. Maybe I should go into construction, lol.
Yeah, you should. Go into the trades in general. I got into hospital installation work nine years ago and it changed my life. I went from making 36k a year to 45k immediately because I went from salary food service management working 60 to 70 hours to hourly working 40 to 50 plus paid travel. Contractor work so no time and a half overtime. If I had been working for an hourly wage at my salary job, then I tripled it for less work, no managing people, and so so much less stress.
I learned so many skills I can’t put a dollar value on. One of the ones I can was low voltage cabling. I’m not trying to boast when I say I’m one of the best at this in a hospital setting in the United States. It’s a small field. I don’t make nearly as much as a master electrician would with my experience but I didn’t have to do an official apprenticeship and don’t have any kind of license other than OSHA and shit like scissor lift.
This might sound stupid but maybe contact local media? TV especially. They might like to do a segment on you. You can obviously speak professionally and hopefully still dress the part and plead your case. This is a long shot, but it could actually get it fixed.
How much is the guy’s bail? If you throw money at it, I will too. It’s your duty to your fellow man for equity. It’s probably more than we can afford but I’m just thinking. Maybe we can seed a fund.
I’m currently reading Danny Coughlin’s Bad Dream which is a short story by Stephen King about an innocent person accused of a crime. He had a similar line about “whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?”
That’s the fun part about that picture above, that is a picture of how they treat an innocent man. He hasn’t been convicted of anything. They never would have had all new oranges like that for him if it wasn’t for the number of cameras they knew would show up.
Terry?
Wait etnies are prison shoes? They are by far my favourite brand of shoes lol
I was buying $25 etnies from Walmart on a walk home from jail wearing the knock off Toms jail shoes.
Hard to tell in the picture but if you zoom in you can see them, the way his toe is lifted makes the bottom look larger(white area) than they really are. (Some would call them bath shoes for jails)
I went to sentencing for a misdemeanor and all I took in my pockets were like 10 quarters for the phone because I knew I was only in a couple days or week max but they let you out when they feel like it. My girlfriend was going to come get me when I got out. This wasn’t totally before cell phones but I didn’t have one at the time.
They took my quarters when I got to jail.
Break for Pro-Tip: if you know you’re going to jail, even just for the night or until you make bail and not gen pop, don’t take any money if you can avoid it. They call it the “jail fee” and steal all your paper money (or quarters in my case). I once hid my cash in my sock when I knew I was going to drunk tank and the guy was going through my wallet. He asked me where was my money. I told him I threw it out the window of the police car. Back to the story.
I couldn’t believe they took my fucking phone quarters. They let me out in the middle of the night in December. There were two COs getting off work and I tried to beg a couple quarters to use the phone. They just laughed at me. I didn’t bring a jacket or anything, it was warmish when I went to court. By now it’s about 40 degrees. Lucky I guess, back then it got a lot colder a lot more often.
So I start walking. It’s 10 miles. Try to hitchhike for a while then give up. It starts raining. This is the point where I considered laying down in the ditch to die. I realized it would take too long to die and kept on. Nobody walking on the road. This is a state road that runs beside the highway and doesn’t have much on it. I went into a gas station to try to use their phone and they told me to fuck off. I went into a McDonald’s and they let me get a free water. I ended up walking to my girlfriend’s apartment which was about 16 blocks closer than my place. I walked in, climbed into bed and she woke up saying what the fuck why didn’t you call me?
Man, what assholes.
I was at a “know your rights” training thing for protesters and activists, and one of the things that they covered is that a super important and low risk thing way to support a large protest is to have people sort of “on guard” nearby the police station, ready to receive and support someone who was arrested, because the police like to release people at stupid times of night (especially if they’re salty that they don’t have enough evidence to charge you for a crime). In most cases though, (such as yours), there’s no-one to provide this support, and then you’re fucked.
I hadn’t realised how prevalent this spitefulness was until this part of the training , where multiple people shared experiences of this sort. I was already on team ACAB as it was.
I’m glad you made it home safe.
https://youtube.com/shorts/JFJYMBPfTn4
Because someone can get rich(er) off others suffering
Comically enough I took a 3 month contract with a company a couple years back. They run private prisons around the U.S. I left and didn’t extend or take a position for what some would say are “woke” ideals. But one of the reasons was that if a doctor has their medical license suspended for malpractice, I found out they are ALLOWED to practice medicine in private prisons. So some of the worst doctors who do nefarious shit would get suspended for it, and they would take a job for the prison systems to make money and not be investigated by proper review boards until they could get their standing back. I know this because I would have to verify errors in their systems pertaining to drug prescription purchases that would be illegal to send to any other doctor in the U.S., but would be allowed there.
They sure do love taking and posting pictures of him and then yelling at people to not give him any press. How many pics have we seen of him in custody? They dont want coverage of him silenced, they want to control that narrative. US justice system is a sad broken dishonest state of affairs.
Every day Trump walks free has been sad proof of that
Why is it terrorism when rich people are killed?
Cause they only care when rich scum are terrorized.
If it’s politically motivated I’m pretty sure it’s terrorism.
But is it politically motivated?
He was pissed his claim was denied.
I’d say that yes it was definitely at least partially politically motivated, since it was just as much an attack against the system as it was against the person, but hardly terrorism since there was no intent to scare the general public.
He probably did intend to scare insurance company executives. I can see calling it terrorism, even if I think he should get off.
I’ve dealt with back pain, and during the height of my battle with the insurer I absolutely would’ve been tempted to kill the fuckers given the chance.
So, I’ve heard he didn’t actually have UHC. There’s also no confirmation of a denied claim, just the fact that he had back pain. Luigi targeted Brian because UHC was the largest insurance provider in the country, not because he was personally denied a particular claim. The guy was doing long distance hiking and running months before the slaying.
TrueAnon podcast has a great deep dive into who Luigi was and what his potential motives were.
He’s got a background in Effective Altruism and was involved with a number of Silicon Valley gurus with particularly extremist ideology.
Far from simply being an unhappy customer, it’s likely he’s a real life “Radical Centrist” who got pilled on far center neoliberal ideology.
I mean he wrote words on bullets (or casings, I dunno) and a manifesto…
….so? How many killers before him have written a manifesto? Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism? They’re actually striking out at “the system.” How many white supremacists mass shootings have written manifestos and not been charged with terrorism?
Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism?
There’s little need to up-charge school shooters. Many of them are killed on sight. Those that are captured (Dylan Roof, for instance) get life without parole or the death sentence.
But in NYC, a single murder without a terrorist motive only gets you to 2nd Degree Murder. That means you’ll be out in 15 years. The “terrorism” addendum is necessary for life without parole sentencing.
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In some instances, absolutely.
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The military is political. It is literally policy when the military moves. Anything any military does is dictionary terrorism. But terrorism is a nasty word for it so we don’t call it that.
Makes sense
I mean, yes. But folks here aren’t ready for that conversation
Don’t worry I agree lol
The NY charge calls for a specific action taken against a government entity.
Unless UHC is part of the government, but corporations as government is Musolini style fascism, and the US isn’t a fascist country, right?
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Lotta cops for a little kid with a busted back
He was a lone wolf and they’re acting like the Mafia might come to free him any moment
Mafia should do something useful for once
Honestly the mafia should free him. Why not? Insurance companies are impeding on the mafias protection racket lol.
They acting like the whole country wants to kill him when it’s the complete opposite.
They’re really telling on themselves. Scared shitless.
That’s what bothers me. The government is like ‘the memes about him aren’t true, he’s nothing special. It’s just murder’
Then they turn around and prosecute saying ‘this isn’t just murder! Look at all the memes! This needs to be enforced like the special event it is’
You can’t have your cake and eat it too. The judicial branch has been downplaying it as a simple murder. One man mad at another man. Nothing more. Cool. Then prosecute it as such.
The inconsistent words jeopardize the faith in the system. Neo Nazi lynches a man to prove a point to an entire race that they are not safe… Murder, not terrorism.
Guy kills a CEO over his personal issues with treatment with no master plan or manifesto? That’s a terrorist?
The public needs consistency or we lose trust in the system.
Guy kills a CEO over his personal issues with treatment with no master plan or manifesto? That’s a terrorist?
Assuming the evidence found is legit and Luigi is the shooter, this is false. He never had UHC and he appeared to target them because they’re the biggest and deny the most.
The issue is the terrorism charge is about government not private business so the government is telling on itself that it considers private business to be one in the same.
Exactly what I was about to say. Just when dude was ready to do the righteous thing, instead of punishing his personal persecutor, he piles pellets into the public’s prolific plan provider.
or we lose trust
Huh, first time?
If they bring out a regiment to guard your show trial you’re almost certainly on the right side of history.
Probably.
90%
Right side of History, sure, but,
For it’s the end of history
It’s caged and frozen still
There is no other pill to take
So swallow the one
That made you ill
you know, that the end of history crap is what that song criticizes, making it a really strange way to reply to someone saying something is on the right side of history.
Put it on an album cover!
Is the fucking Mayor of New York in that picture? Wtf this just surreal. Our fucking hero being perp walked like this.
Fascinating that he’s right behind him. Perfect photo op. Isn’t he accused of crimes right now? Or just his close associates?
He’s accused of various crimes and no one really likes him on the Left or Right.
The Right hates him because he basically he helped forward a program meant to help Undocumented Immigrants, only it came at the expense of New Yorkers and to such an extent that when I looked into it I had to make sure I wasn’t reading Fox News because it was so insanely gratuitous that if I started describing it, it’d sound like Sean Hannity got into the meth again.
The Left hates him because in order to safe face for that PR Disaster, he immediately sucked up to Trump and announced that he was switching parties in a speech about how the Left is “So woke and useless” and he “Just wants to be on the winning team”, using various buzzwords in a context that kinda suggests he doesn’t know what they mean.
And because he’s the second worst mayor New York City has ever had (the first being Rudy Giulanni of course), no one is really buying his political shift. Don’t get me wrong, no one thinks he’s a Leftist or even a Neo Liberal at heart, it’s just kinda obvious that this man has no spine and will go hard on whatever he thinks will make him look good at the time.
Only he’s so bad at picking “What will make me look good right now?”, that I’m pretty sure his advisor is Michael Scott from The Office.
I mean, that’s a whole lot of words to say he’s a cop and all cops are bastards.
I laugh my ass off that during Black Lives Matter protests liberals voted for a fucking cop for vice president and a fucking cop for mayor of NYC. What the actual fuck you dumb fucking liberals. Learn something other than identity politics. I swear to god people just vote for people because they’re a minority, even if they’re absolutely fucking terrible.
You’re acting like the only other option wasn’t Trump again. Most people didn’t vote for Biden/Harris because they actually wanted Biden or Harris, but because we’re trapped in a 2 party system in a country where half the population doesn’t even vote.
Yeah, no. Fuck the democrats and the dumbass liberals who support them. Y’all get what y’all deserve. A fascist government. Biden admin had four years to prosecute trump for J6 and they slow walked the case. Democrats have had numerous opportunities to show a backbone and get shit done and time and time again they refuse to do anything except blame republicans and play identity politics. That’s all they have to offer.
Oh, this is lemmy world, sorry for hurting libs feelings. Jk, not sorry. Y’all shat on the left for years now you’re getting what you deserve.
Democrats refuse to hold people accountable and then are shocked pikachu face that they lose elections when they don’t even bother creating a platform besides we’re not trump. cope and seethe libs!
When did I say I was a Democrat? Both parties are too far right for me personally. I’m saying you can’t blame the average voter for our 2 party system we’re stuck in. The majority of Americans aren’t happy but how exactly can it be fixed when more than half of them can’t even be bothered to even think of politics? Decades of indifference allowed this, not the people who actually regularly make it to the polls even while pissed with their options.
Him too why he started sucking up to Trump. He wants a pardon.
Oh duh. Luigi needs to run for office.
I’m asking Santa for jury nullification.
I assume the jury will be selected from Manhattan as that’s where the event occurred. Anybody know if they pull from all boroughs or not?
If I lived in New York I’d be printing stacks of paper to post everywhere. Black and white. Something like… Luigi Fired in Self Defense and in the Defense of Others. Put this photo on it. Below that a few simply worded facts about the insurance industry killing people for profit. Then a QR code link to something explaining jury nullification in simple terms and why you can’t speak about it during jury selection.
And how you can’t post about being selected for the jury or really tell anyone at all.
I think getting the definition out there is very important.
This could totally be an album cover
Slap a CEO ADVISORY WARNING on it
Looks like a new ratm cover.
Damn. That’d be so rad. That would be a bold mf’n ratm album indeed.
Run the Jewels going to have to take it. Rage broke up again.
Speaking of, it’s about time for a new RTJ. I’ll bet anyone a million dollars they rap about Luigi.
Zac was a Silly-Billy and broke his leg (not the first time he’s tripped on stage) and so they cancel a world tour AND never tour again? Dayum.
Also, ain’t no-one gonna call that bet 😅
Anyone got the original high res photo?
Can we stop having school shooters and make this a trend instead? 🙏🏾
This just make him look more like a hero that’s oppressed by the government.
They needed that many guys because they were afraid of him
I mean, Jaquim Phoenix’s Joker did… what? Kill Jay Leno on air? Luigi is definitely in the top 3 Jokers, way above Leto and Phoenix.
He also was the center of the riot at the end of the movie that led to Martha and Thomas Waynes dying.
Ledger’s Joker literally destroyed mafia from inside while Batman was crying the whole time.
I saw this on the news and honestly wondered how many cops are required for this prisoner transfer? Because all those people are getting paid to walk a guy past cameras, and they’re probably all getting paid more than me, and there’s SO many of them
“Ah, yep, absolutely doing work here. Work, work, work. Dangerous work. Don’t defund us and here’s the evidence to support why.”
- Multiple U.S. Police Departments Probably
These pigs billed six hours of overtime for the ten minute walk no doubt.
“I stayed vigilant(e) like Batman and he’s a Billionaire! I deserve the overtime penalty rates! … Plus remember all the danger?!”
Probably overtime for all of them too. These low IQ “heroes” all have boats and RVs which arent going to pay for themselves.
Yeah the brownshirts get perks to make them feel better than the proletariat. They rub elbows with the bourgeoisie, and occasionally with the oligarchs, making them feel like part of the in-group. Meanwhile the bourgie think of them as disgusting necessary idiots and the oligarchs think of them as filthy trained dogs.
