Don’t underestimate their tactic. For the republican presidential campaign, they will recognize only one of two outcomes: victory, or election tampering/fraud/manipulation. And, the wider the margin of win, the stronger the rhetoric will be.

As long as he loses I think it’s mostly good. He currently does not hold the levers of power, and I think as much as his supporters like to play the victim, I think a second loss will lead to evaporating support. Hard to pretend to be a strongman when you look weak

Expect the challenge. I’ve been watching the usual suspects on Twitter, they’re completely bwashed into thinking there’s only one possible outcome, and if it goes against them it means there’s been election fraud. They’re already calling it a landslide.

This, after ten years of this orange baboon dominating the headlines and flinging shit everywhere I’m ready for it to end.

Trump will challenge no matter what the margin is, if he loses. He will never concede because he’s a narcissistic loser and his moron followers will blindly do his bidding, especially on the next January 6.

I hoped for his removal.

If we are being honest I suspect this election will be tight. Let’s try not to pull a democrat this time. In 2020 they voted to uphold the election without any recounts because there was a democrat majority in Congress. When you are elected leader it is your job to serve the people. They should’ve at least looked into Trumps claims even if they were fabricated.

I voted Trump but I completely agree. We need a landslide, even if Harris wins. Anything else gives the bad actors on either side fuel for an already out of control fire.

I’m just going to keep riding this horse until it fucking dies but the very first thing he did was take everything Obama did during his presidency and throw it out the window, including the pandemic playbook.

That playbook would have given us step by step instructions and reactions to deal with any type of suddenly erupting national pandemic like Ebola or coronavirus.

And because of this, which was by all measures a racially motivated attack on Obama, more than 1 million Americans died in a badly managed pandemic.

Trump’s racism killed a million Americans.

It undoubtedly exacerbated the problem for the entire world and his total kill count is likely much more than that.

How can you let somebody who genocided millions of people through racism sit in the oval office?

exactly what i was thinking about. it was such a tense and shameful period.

It’s crazy that the vote is apparently close. Really goes to show how many “average” americans have utterly lost any connection to actual reality and have guzzled enough of the kool-aid to believe the weird whacky world of wonders the religious fascists constantly conjure up.

I wonder though, is this ultimately a failure not of the education and internal offices, decades ago? We let schools let people down, leading to them becoming undereducated terrible parents who let their kids down and made them vulnerable to be exploited by republicans and churches and crypto grifters. :(

I woke up every day worried that we’d nuked Spain overnight.

Yes.

Just as insane as it is today if you ask me

Of course they are sleeping soundly. They’d literally be marching into the camps convinced they did the right thing.

With how few actual thoughts go through their minds I’m sure they’ll sleep well enough.

Isn’t Jill Stein effectively a republican asset at this point? Like not just a spoiler candidate but one actively funded by the right?

Hey, if they get their way, they may not be afraid of Trump. But they should still be afraid. There’s only one way to beat Nazis and their enablers, and if that’s the solution it takes, so be it, no sympathy for Nazis and their sympathizers.

You definitely are going to sleep better by not supporting any criminal with blood on his hands. There’s many other things other than voting you can do to change things for good, if you are not fine with Jill Stein and believe she’s evil don’t vote for them either

But that would require them to reign in the very same companies that sponsor them. One can hope, but it seems unlikely.

Us on the left need to stop depending on a government whose military is overwhelmingly in support of Trump. We already know nearly all police are the same fascists (not to mention uvalde)

Arm yourself and train your family. Be silently ready for anything, don’t make yourself a target

Which fascist movement? american or israel?

USA is a country with a lot of inequality, if not rising inequality, so a fertile breeding ground for populists. And it has an ancient voting system that always gives a two party system so perfect for this kind of polarisation. The system with campaign contributions will also make sure nothing changes about inequality and is making things worse. Yeah, it’ll happen again.

You’re right in concept but DeSantis utterly fizzled nationally. Even in Florida he’s aging like last week’s fish.

You mean Dicksantis?

Jeb Bush?

They already won culturally, as they managed to shift the political culture closer towards theirs. They also managed to set issues that are “theirs”. We see the same shit in Europe, were supposedly progressive parties are implementing the wildest dreams of racist anti-immigration, anti-refugee, anti-science and authoritarian surveillance state policies that the fascists dreamed off. All in the name of “stopping” them, while neglecting actually relevant issues like social services and infrastructure investments. Rinse and repeat and by the time the fascists take over all they have to do is remove the remaining formalities of division of power and democracy.

The major difference is that he’s not president this time, Biden is. Republicans only control the House, and that control is narrow. He will try, but he has very few people in government who support him this time.

That’s true… They just need enough to start a civil war (and the entire point by Trump, and the rest of his cronies is to stay out of prison).

And all he needs to do, is start a coup, but not be 100% upfront this time. And he’s been sowing those seeds… He also needs to take over the justice system and the voting system (and he’s been trying to do that too). The idea, like dealing drugs or the mafia, is to try to put measures in place so that other people get blamed

Frankly that is BS

Anyway what happens if he wins fair in square? Would there be a group of people who refused to accept it? Maybe even a violent mob on the capital?

I think both sides need to chill. I’ve seen so many people questioning the polls even though there is little evidence to back it up. We don’t need mobs from either side causing chaos. I think a lot of uncertainty is coming from US adversaries who want to destabilize the US. It is scary how well it is working.

Also calling the election into question isn’t a problem by itself. If they want to do a recount that is perfectly fine by me. I think it is way more important to have accurate results. Follow the law and official policies. If doing a recount means settling a dispute then go for it.

Exactly. OP is most privileged take, most useless “allies”.

Yep, already dropped of my mail-in ballot in person and received an email from the county election supervisor that my vote counted 🤠

I think if he loses theres a good chance that the people behind him will knock him off.

You know what works better than a hero? A martyr.

Policy-wise it is the same Grand Old Party. The vibe and rhetoric is different, but the policy is mostly all there.

I thought the same thing in 2016.

The fact that you said fortnight implies that you don’t truly understand the animus of rural america

ive been disconnected. what happened?

The last election was almost perfectly 50/50. It think it will be very close this year as well.

Its mostly just the echo chamber. But its quite sad in here for sure.

Edit: Hilarious that you were being upvoted until my comment gave more context to what you meant. Mindless lemmings.