• ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    14 hours ago

    Rather than scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds a more useful statement would be today’s neoliberals can be tomorrow’s socialists. But to do that we have to do the work of convincing people to be socialists. Teaching people neoliberalism is a scam is the first step in that.

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      11 hours ago

      It’s a mistake to think liberal centrism is closer to the left than right. It’s not linear . More triangular.

      It’s has been shown and writ large that the proletariat will move from left to right and vice versa, without going near liberal centrism

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        3 hours ago

        In the context of a 2-d, Euclidean geometry, x and y axis political compass putting neoliberals slightly right of center makes sense. In different models a different position could make sense. People don’t need to move through neoliberalism. The issue is that many if not most people in our society have neoliberal ideas in their heads.

        Regan, Bush Sr, Clinton, W, Obama were all some variation on neoliberal. Neoliberal rhetoric laid the ground work for Trump. Biden also being a neoliberal hasn’t moved the needle on this while in office. We can’t wait for someone to do it for us. We have to help people fully internalize neoliberalism as a scam. Then teach them about socialism.