• TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Someone like AOC and Bernie will never be allowed anywhere near actual power. God damn money.

    • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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      9 days ago

      and even if they did get in power, they’d still support NATO and imperialism in general, still support capitalist exploitation, and still would only pay lip service to or fight symptoms of systemic issues instead of ripping the cause that is capitalism out by it’s root

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        if they did get in power, they’d still support NATO and imperialism in general, still support capitalist exploitation, and still would only pay lip service to or fight symptoms of systemic issues instead of ripping the cause that is capitalism out

        … if only the things that make most people vote republican, wasn’t also the things that have been made bad by republicans policies.

        • “Capitalist exploitation bad”… You genuinely think that the Republican policies are better?
        • “Imperialism in general”… who has the biggest interests to fund the war machine…
        • “Still support NATO”… ahh… Now I get it… you’re just pro the geopolitical enemy of the US. Weird how that is now “republican”. “pay lip service” is funny that you should mention.
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            9 days ago

            Theoretically, but having an actionable idea means to have an idea that you have a plan to put in action. So as always, where is it?

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              … revolution. That is the idea. We are talking about two completely different things, you expect run-down people to think logically and clearly about something as complex as an alternative*(edit) societal system while actively existing in some of the worst social contexts we’ve seen in decades, while we are talking about acting in such a manner as to free up the cognitive bandwidth necessary to determine what you demand.

              It’s like any other toxic relationship, you can’t begin to heal until you’ve exited said relationship.

              To clarify, by any means necessary. Start demanding, start opposing, start rallying. Spread the word, keep the reality of things alive in people’s awareness, because the natural instinct is to retreat and deny in order to protect oneself, but that’s exactly the trap the Right sets and then springs for a massive boost in support from downtrodden, desperate people.

              Edit to add: the Right and Capitalism, because they both infiltrate and exist by solving problems they themselves create, thus garnering support through necessity.

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              9 days ago

              You can easily look up the answer to your question by yourself: leftist theory, often in the form of books (or even just watching video essays, listening to podcasts etc. etc.)

              You can start over on here https://www.marxists.org/

              One could argue that there are too many different socialist approaches to revolution or rather that it’s not all that easy finding the correct one to your situation

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                Additionally, check out the previous revolutions from around the world! Most of them didn’t happen on a basis of theory, but of people determined to change their condition.

                Take Romania, for example. Sure, that’s an example of a revolution which ended up replacing one disaster with another, but even that holds a lesson for us: word-of-mouth is king, don’t give into desperation when figuring out the next attempt.