Looking at the current admin and the Palestine situation, I don’t see how it makes a difference if D leadership care slightly more than R leadership about what is going on in Gaza. (Though I’m voting for Kamala anyhow, for the reasons you’d think.) They clearly aren’t doing anything about it beyond some exceptionally low energy lip service - and how many months did it take to even get to that point?
But I have to admit in a vacuum I personally wouldn’t have titled the meme that way. It’s Colonizers.
I also don’t think it’s low effort. It’s a worthwhile reminder that for as long as there are indigenous and less technologically developed populations located on land that wealthier and/or more technologically developed peoples want to exploit, we’ll just keep making the same cruel decision over and over.
Pinning colonialism on liberals is very low effort. It shows a profound lack of understanding.
The Democratic party cannot do anything until after the election and can only make a positive difference if they win big in Congress as well.
I really can’t get behind trying to make liberals into a whipping boy. It really reeks of whataboutism and propaganda designed to prevent liberals and progressives from making a difference by souring people against them.
Just as a thought experiment imagine protesting against and lobbying a Democratic President and Congress over a Republican President and Congress about the treatment of Palestinians.
For sure. I mean you can go back to the 1700’s and the people advocating for treating native populations with kindness and care were all liberal. Perhaps not all people who called themselves liberal though agreed with this.
The conservatives back then viewed them as sub human to be used and abused.
One of my points about viewing these times with a modern lense is they knew even back then that we were mistreating natives. So it is some ways fair to judge them for what they did.
Hur dur and it was the conservatives that wanted to end slavery and stop going to war in the Middle East.
Who needs reality when you can just invent your own?
In this context liberals are just less conservative conservatives.
(And seeing where D is going, I’d say that’s true in the usual context also.)
I think it is easier just to shit on anything you don’t really understand. Hence why we get low effort memes like this.
Do liberals and progressives bear some responsibility for what happened? Certainly. But they were also the only ones advocating for fair treatment.
Looking at the current admin and the Palestine situation, I don’t see how it makes a difference if D leadership care slightly more than R leadership about what is going on in Gaza. (Though I’m voting for Kamala anyhow, for the reasons you’d think.) They clearly aren’t doing anything about it beyond some exceptionally low energy lip service - and how many months did it take to even get to that point?
But I have to admit in a vacuum I personally wouldn’t have titled the meme that way. It’s Colonizers.
I also don’t think it’s low effort. It’s a worthwhile reminder that for as long as there are indigenous and less technologically developed populations located on land that wealthier and/or more technologically developed peoples want to exploit, we’ll just keep making the same cruel decision over and over.
Pinning colonialism on liberals is very low effort. It shows a profound lack of understanding.
The Democratic party cannot do anything until after the election and can only make a positive difference if they win big in Congress as well.
I really can’t get behind trying to make liberals into a whipping boy. It really reeks of whataboutism and propaganda designed to prevent liberals and progressives from making a difference by souring people against them.
Just as a thought experiment imagine protesting against and lobbying a Democratic President and Congress over a Republican President and Congress about the treatment of Palestinians.
Everything else you said I can agree with though.
I did say I’d have titled it Colonizers not Liberals.
For sure, was not trying to pin that on you. Just reiterating my critique of the post.
you’d think a person posting on leftymemes would understand that the OP is criticising liberals from the left
For sure. I mean you can go back to the 1700’s and the people advocating for treating native populations with kindness and care were all liberal. Perhaps not all people who called themselves liberal though agreed with this.
The conservatives back then viewed them as sub human to be used and abused.
One of my points about viewing these times with a modern lense is they knew even back then that we were mistreating natives. So it is some ways fair to judge them for what they did.