“liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality.’ Mikhail Bakunin
“Tankie” means supporting Russian invasion into Ukraine, not “a communist”
Capitalists tell you to work and starve
Communists tell you to stop farming and instead produce steel in your backyard, causing tens of millions of your people to starve.
That sure was messed up. Let’s not do that again.
I once tried to ride a bike and fell over and skinned my knee. Now I walk everywhere.
Good time to mention [email protected]
a.k.a intelligent communism
Or really just internally consistent communism.
Nah you give what you are able and recieve what you need.
From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs
Who decides what a person needs?
On the face, I think the idea “from each according to their needs, to each according to their ability” sounds reasonable. But if you have ever done any logistics work, then you know it is a childishly simplistic fantasy.
There is no way you could possibly keep track of the many resources and services that are needed in a modern, complex society and distribute them usefully before the people who need them die of old age (or starvation). As you try to centralize tracking of everything the administrative problems grow exponentially, and never mind building the actual distribution network. No government-managed system could ever keep up with the needs of a growing, changing society.
Just the highly centralised power structure and the single party consisting entirely of nepotism.
Yes, but you see, this is true freedom. You can only have real economic freedom, political choice and self-determination in a system where there’s only one party and they control aspects of your life you didn’t need controlling, such as how much food you’re allowed to buy.
To be fair, yes, there were times in the soviet union were rationing of specific foods was a good idea, because there just wasn’t enough for everyone otherwise. But still the thought that a single party can unilaterally decide how much you can eat is pretty damn scary.
Yeah, there’s no person or group of people on this planet I would trust to equitably distribute resources like food and water, or decide what medical services count as needs for me or my family.
It is widely believed that while the Soviet Union may have produced these benefits, in the end, Soviet public ownership and planning proved to be unworkable. Otherwise, how to account for the country’s demise? Yet, when the Soviet economy was publicly owned and planned, from 1928 to 1989, it reliably expanded from year to year, except during the war years. To be clear, while capitalist economies plunged into a major depression and reliably lapsed into recessions every few years, the Soviet economy just as unfailingly did not, expanding unremittingly and always providing jobs for all
https://gowans.blog/2012/12/21/do-publicly-owned-planned-economies-work/
A random biased unknown blogger is your evidence that socialism works?
Yet, when the Soviet economy was publicly owned and planned, from 1928 to 1989, it reliably expanded from year to year
This claim is laughable considering that the vast majority of Soviet citizens lived in abject poverty during that period, and the whole system collapsed due to lack of money. If the economy was “reliably expanding” then why were their bread lines?
The infamous bread lines, people queuing up before dawn to get milk, scarce produce, bare shelves at supermarkets and empty clothing stores became an everyday reality. We didn’t have connections to The Party, nor veteran benefits—as both sets of my grandparents were too young to fight in the war—so we lined up like everyone else. Often, the distribution of food was limited to a certain number of pieces per person. I was frequently dragged to stores by grownups in my family so we could get two packs of detergent instead of one. Or two loaves of white bread instead of one. Or two pea coats. Whatever appeared in stores nearby.
There was nothing economically successful about the USSR, it brought poverty to its entire population, aside from a handful of powerful political figures who enriched themselves at the expense of everyone else.
Yeah, but ðere are people who cannot give at all, and ð quote from ð Stalinists makes no allowance for ð mentally or physically incapable of labor.
A society is only as good as how it treats its least able to treat for ðemselves.
I think your keyboard is broken
Nah, it’s just set to Old Norse
When you’re in front of the MAGA firing squad, take comfort before your last breath that you’re not a “TANKIE.”
If I get executed by an authoritarian state. You bet you I will be proud I stood up to authoritarians during my life.
I didn’t realize Trump is a Tankie. You’re so off base, you’re not even in the game. You’re fighting the wrong battle, at the wrong time.
Trump isn’t a tankie. But both Tankies and Trump are authoritarians who oppress the masses.
And I have 400 volunteer hours for Dems the past two election cycles. I think the democratic party is very far from ideal, but I’m a pragmaticist, so I believe we would be far better off with them than the alternative. Don’t accuse me of fighting the wrong battles before you know anything about me.
Maybe if you spent 400 volunteer hours canvassing against tankies instead of Republicans, the threat of Trump and fascism wouldn’t be on the voting ballot. /s
You are weirdly offended by this meme? Do you see yourself in it?
You do realise US politics and who wins the presidential election is not the end all be all of everything right? The world is large. It would be very closed minded to assume Trump is the only threat on this earth.
Red-Baiting is weird. As a Marxist, of course I see myself in it. With two weeks before an election where Trump is threatening the enemy within, I find this kind of thinking quixotic and slapdash.
You really think my meme criticising hypocrisy in people supporting authoritarian capitalism (like China) which calls itself communism, is going to convince people not to vote for Harris.
Not everything is about the US and the US election. We are one of hundreds of countries. Stop acting like everything is about america.
I will
