• xia@lemmy.sdf.org
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    4 days ago

    Yes, corporate overhead is quite real, but it is literally zero effect for the self-employed… so by your logic all would be or become so to be rich by avoiding a CEO altogether.

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      4 days ago

      Are you seriously suggesting that all it should take to become rich is to do freelance work?

      The way people actually get rich is by exploiting the labor of others. Freelance work is only practical in very specific niches, and even then you’ll be forced to compete with conglomerates that have far greater resources.

      • halyk.the.red@lemmy.ml
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        4 days ago

        Xia is failing to realize that the original post isn’t about self owned businesses, so their point doesn’t make sense in this context. Based on their other comments, they either don’t understand how discussions, debates, or arguments work, or they’re a troll, or they’re overly saturated on capitalist propoganda.

        • xia@lemmy.sdf.org
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          3 days ago

          If those are the only options then it is probably the last one, as I’m often not even sure what to call the unfamiliar positions I see others taking here, but it could be a bit of “can’t debate” too as I find a tendency in myself to address the secondary or tertiary consequences of peoples arguments (assuming they are aware of [and already accept] the obvious primary consequences) which can be quite jarring and read like a string of non-sequitors, or like people arguing past each other.

          I agree and do understand that the original post was not about self owned businesses, so I agree that it is a bit off topic here. I was only trying to point out the absurdity of the statement that “taxes are a drop in the ocean compared to [labor value theft]”. As if that were true (or even a less-hyperbolic ratio of 1-to-99), then it would logically follow that freelance work would produce staggeringly higher yields, and we see that is not the case. The intent was an informal proof by contradiction, but that was not made clear.

          I think it could also be shown by induction (as the more people/layers/intermediaries you add the more loss/expense is incurred) if you accept a profit motive and a steady state, but large businesses can and do temporarily sell products at a loss to kill competition in the short-term, so that would probably be less convincing.

          • halyk.the.red@lemmy.ml
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            2 days ago

            Taxation doesn’t take into account the fact that wages are stagnant, but corporations have posted record profits. Small businesses are impacted as well, due to the nature of supply chains, most people cannot create something from nothing.

            I’d like to address something you said that is unrelated to economics. You said you address secondary or tertiary consequences of arguements. That doesn’t seem like a non-sequitor or people arguing past eachother like some kind of verbal 4-D chess match, typed in this case. It seems to me that you’re saying you assume what the other person might say, then you reply to that assumtion. Can you clarify?