Yes, but what about [single political issue here that Trump is as bad or worse on]?
Clearly this means we should vote for [candidate least likely to win but most likely to split the vote of the non-fascist party]!
“As an upper-middle-class white male, I just don’t like politics, so I don’t vote.”
Fuck you, you selfish little pricks.
I vote now.
I don’t think I was selfish before … Just ignorant and/or sheltered.
I don’t think I disagree with your point, but the messaging is unlikely to convert many non voters.
tbf, if they’re on a politics com and bragging about not voting, chances are that they’re pretty far from where you were at if you were just ignorant and/or sheltered.
Well… You’re not wrong.
I’m just yelling at the choir on Lemmy, I believe. With my actual friends, especially married ones with daughters who say this stuff, I approach it differently. “You always tell me you disdain deadbeat dads, but not voting is another form of failing your daughter. You should be a champion for her rights man, not sitting on the sidelines trying to play nice with ‘both sides.’”
I can’t believe how apolitical I was before our daughter was born. I mean I’m not even in the US or a man but Jesus fucking Christ having kids makes you so invested into everything that you cannot not be political. It’s not even a real choice unless you are, as you phrase it, a deadbeat parent.
“You see, if fascism wins, then socialism will magically win next. It’s a law of nature, like a pendulum. It Is Known.”
News Flash, there are other elections that happen in the US every year that are more influential and important for national issues than the presidency.
Maybe take your weird hatred of the failure-of-the-democratic-party-not-being-as-progressive-as-you-want energy and focus that on:
- getting local city councilors, mayors and county clerks etc. elected who represent your political ideology,
- getting state legislators and other officials elected who represent your political ideology,
- getting judges elected (where applicable) who understand the codified and written law and are willing to execute it as written,
- maybe even (SHOCK) getting congresspeople elected who match your political ideology.
I know this might be hard to understand, but there are a myriad of elected officials that comprise our federal system and focusing on THE PRESIDENCY alone will never make anything meaningfully change.
And for anyone who skews even the least bit toward NOT WANTING FACISM to take hold in this country of The United States of America, just fucking vote for Kamala Harris you stupid asshole.
Another thing that gets no attention is that she is one of the few members of congress who didn’t invest in individual stocks but just does index funds to prevent conflicts of interest/insider trading. I really wish democrats would do a better job of contrasting Trump’s corruption with theirs but then again I guess they gotta pick something and run with it.
“Someone that clean has to be dirty”
— maga, probably
I have literally been told that, about myself, by conservatives. This was while I was in The Navy, and holding a Top Secret security clearance. They didn’t approve of their daughter dating a “hippie.” (That was their descriptor not mine.)
They didn’t like having hippie semen in their daughter, who could blame them?
And yet, here we are. How is this even a choice?
Her unwaivering commitment to genocide and corporate donors, flip flopping on major issues and her gratification of Dick Cheney
Everything you said is Donald trump. And he’s a convicted rapist, insurrectionist, conman, serial liar and everything else in the image. Again, how is this even a choice? Or do you consider chocolate and shit equivalent?
Okay. No where did I ever say I was voting Trump. It’s just feeble minds can’t imagine any other scenario.
If Harris started saying “from the river to the sea” at her rallies, she’d drop 10 points overnight. If she was still for a ban on fraking, she’d lose Pennsylvania by 10 points. Cheney is really a waste of energy but a non- factor.
Don’t say we didn’t warn you.
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/30/election-michigan-harris
And she’d drop 5 more points in Michigan if she started the “from river to the sea” shit from her base that she would lose, even with 100% of the state’s Muslims supporting her.
Why is the only other logical choice in your mind that Kamala must either support genocide or spread antisemtic statements? How in the world do you see that as the only two logical options?
I don’t. I want us to cease funding offensive weapons, while still helping to fund the Iron Dome and to defend Isreal if they are attacked. That’d lose her 20 points in the polls because being nuanced would just piss off both sides, especially moderates. She would need real political capital to do so, and I hope that’s her play once elected. It’s obvious she can’t show her cards on this till elected. Do I like the country’s political balls being held by AIPAC? No. But it’s the reality we live in.
A majority of Americans disapprove of Israeli action in Gaza:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/majority-disapprove-israeli-action-gaza.aspx
I’m not sure where this narrative is coming from that it is an unpopular opinion to stand up to Netanyahu.
0 felony convictions.
I’m pretty sure she was responsible for convicting felons.
Mostly black people.
Not like there’s an unclear choice when you Americans vote soon, but pleas don’t forget that part. Most two party elections are choosing the lesser of two shit options.
Sometimes they get carried away and forget the Democrat party is still a right wing party. I’m not happy voting for Harris, but I’m happy voting against Trump (or even happy voting for Walz)
Oh she made people felons alright
Incorrect.
She’s got a shitload of those.
She’s just on the delivering end, not the receiving.
It seems obvious, but half the country thinks Harris controls weather machines and hits Florida with hurricanes for some reason. They show up and vote, because they believe this nonsense deeply.
Please acknowledge the threat and act accordingly. If you are in a swing state, please vote for the rest of us. Your vote matters so very much.
It’s not half. It’s a minority in this country. It SEEMS like half cause the electoral college is a moronic system.
It’s actually pretty close to half. According to Pew polls of people in the US, (not just voters or likely voters), about 40% identify as right of center. About 35% identify as left of center. The other 25% identify as moderates or independents.
Sounds boring.
Personally, I think the world needs major powers with a bit more crazy to 'em. You really wanna live in a world where you go to bed and wake up to the same thing? Selling nuclear secrets is the spice of life.
Edit: Really? I honestly thought I was laying the sarcasm on a little thick. Whatever. lol
America already sends 20+ billion thank you checks for killing tens of thousands of women & children. What more could you ask for?
Are you not fucking tired? Imagine shilling this hard without even an ounce of thought.
Imagine unironically supporting genocide.
Where meme?
This just a political ad I see on CNNYeah it’s nice to point out that Trump is a piece of s*** for those reasons, but let’s not pretend that career politicians are all wonderful human beings.
Not sure why you think the things listed constitute a wonderful human being.
Because the post is romanticizing Harris. It lists all of these negative qualities that Trump has that doesn’t list any that she and Trump share. And that’s okay, but if that’s your advertisement, then be careful that you don’t alienate potential voters.
Many people expect that career politicians have a checkered past and possibly support some policies that we personally dislike, and if you try to frame someone as being angelic, which this poster did by contrast, your message may be considered basically dishonest.
0 apologies for convicting drug users into forced labour.
TBH violently participating in the injustice system is a financial fraud and treasonous grift on americans.
0 fucks given about Palestine
Brilliant. Don’t understand the haters, are they so fanatic of mama Kamala?
You mean you don’t understand the lovers, right? In the end it’s always a matter of “who’s the least worse”. Harris is, by far, but in the end certain things will never change. Will Harris be brave to turn her back on Israel? Never. A lot of empty words have been said on the matter but facts speak louder than words. US can’t afford to lose their proxy in the middle east. Israel will continue to be unpunished and funded for years to come. How much money did they send to Israel in the last year? Read about 18 billions, or something like that. But they built the pier in Gaza for humanitarian actions. LOL. It’s like throwing a dollar to a person you’re helping beating up.
No, I mean hater ppl who downvote undisputed ideas like that comment in order to ‘support’ the mama.
Oh, sorry. I don’t care about downvotes. I’m glad they read it but didn’t have anything to respond to it.
$100 billion in weapons for Israel to keep the genocide going
Trump wants to end the Palestine resistance the same way he wants to end the Ukrainian resistance.
I understand that. It’s just that I’m tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. Can we please stop killing innocent people? Thank you.
Gonna be honest here.
I do not give a shit. Not a single shit.
Wow. Almost a year of news about the ongoing genocide could make someone numb but your absolute lack of care really shows the kind of person you are.
Truly revolting
0 primaries won
0 fucks given about commiting genocide
Bless your heart.
what is Trump’s position on the Gaza genocide? will he be better?
I have 0 faith trump will be better
Trump’s position is that he wants to obliterate Gaza and commit genocide domestically, too.
Well then vote trump what do you want from us
some conviction and honesty would be nice
