Nations are deploying baby bonuses, subsidised childcare and parental leave to try to reverse a rapidly declining fertility rate – largely to no avail
  • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
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    2 months ago

    We don’t need a higher birth rate … we need a better quality of life for everyone.

    • normalexit@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      It’s almost like if people had free time, a positive outlook on life, and resources to live comfortably that babies would be a natural outcome.

  • don@lemm.eeEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I’m so glad I didn’t selfishly pull my unborn children out of perfectly peaceful nonexistence and into this horrid timeline.

    • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      “I love my unborn children far too much to bring them into this dumpster fire of a society.”

      My parents were pestering the wife and I about when we’re going to give them grandbabies. Hit em with that line a few years ago, and they haven’t brought it up since.

      The idea of having a kid in today’s world just seems cruel.

    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Yeah, I’m going to go ahead and say that as long as global population is going up, we’re having too many, not too few. Once it levels off we may have to think about whether we want to degrow the population or just leave it.

      I wouldn’t be surprised at all if by the 2080s, “peak human” according to the quoted estimate, Brave New World baby factories are an option should we need them.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        2 months ago

        The issue is growth rates are wildly different among different areas and cultures. The population in some places is dropping precipitously which will cause economic problems, especially around elder care.

        While I agree that a gradual population reduction would be beneficial, rapid declines will increase human suffering and should be avoided.

      • erusuoyera@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        2 months ago

        The main driver of population growth is people living longer. The problem with less babies being born means less young labourers for all the old fucks to exploit. Logan’s Run would be a better sci-fi system to adopt.

  • No_Eponym@lemmy.caEnglish
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    2 months ago

    All the Neo-Malthusian BS in this thread, holy crap. The “overpopulation is the problem” has got to be one of the best ways for governments, corpos, and the rich to deflect attention from their failures and excesses. Hands down even better than the “personal carbon footprint” propaganda.

    • earth has a resource distribution/use efficiency issues right now; the rich are greedy and wasteful.

    • don’t want to have kids? Fine, don’t! Kids deserve parents that want them, and you deserve your autonomy to live your life as more than a means to an end for demographics.

    • if governments addressed the resource hoarding and waste, more people who want to have kids would have them because they would have enough to have a good quality of life and standard of living, and we would also have addressed things like climate change and dystopic corpo control.

  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Maybe we need more fucking and less babies. Fucking makes people happy for nearly free, just the price of condoms. To continuously depopulate, we would want to have deathbed parties for old fucks, or parties at the morg.

    Maybe another pandemic? And we just ignore all we learned and we go around spitting on every door knob?