Meanwhile, 44 percent backed the American tradition of competing branches of government as a model, if sometimes “frustrating,” system.
Why would people want to live under an authoritarian’s thumb? It’s rooted, experts say, in a psychological need for security—real or perceived—and a desire for conformity, a goal that becomes even more acute as the country undergoes dramatic demographic and social changes. People also like to obey a strong leader who will protect the group—especially if it is the “right” group whose interests will be protected. Recall the Trump supporter who, during the 2019 government shutdown, complained, “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”
The people who dont want to be told how they live desperately want someone to tell them how to live.
They want their opinion mirrored back at them by someone in power so they don’t have to take responsibility for their own opinions.
A close friend of mine is a woman of color and her bosses want the same things from her. They wants to hear their opinion come out of someone with her skin tone so they feel justified and not responsible at the same time. I imagine these are similar phenomenon.
Nailed it, this 💯
You just perfectly described the Candace Owens and Dave Rubin phenomenon.
They don’t want to be told how to live while simultaneously having someone force others to live like them.
To have others be told how to live, which is how they prefer to live already.
Exactly.
They support him because they believe he is like them, so they won’t need to change anything. It’s everyone else that will be forced to be like them that they want…
I hope I’m not spreading misinformation, but I believe one of the victims of the assassination attempt had a flag on his Facebook page that was a play off of “don’t tread on me” and in it’s place was a tank with “tread on all of them.”
I fucking hate these people so much
The people who don’t want to be told how to live want other people to be told how to live thinking they’ll be left alone.
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Regardless of if it’s true, you shouldn’t use that word.
However its all perspective, an intellectual disability is described as 30 points below average, because a 30 point difference is noticable.
So even just two people at the end of the first standard deviation would experience that.
Being three standard deviations above average isn’t that rare, about 1 in 1200, about the same rate as people who transition oddly enough, so it’s a good comparison.
If you’re “lucky” enough to be over 145, about 84% of everyone else is at least 30 points below you.
It’s like real life Idiocracy or old school Cassandra. Shit seems so simple but no one listens.
Even then bro, dont resort to that word.
What are your thoughts on the words moron, stupid, or idiot?
They used to be bad, now they’re not.
Maybe it will change for this one too, but it’s not our decision currently
I wonder what are his thoughts on fun places like reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets where everybody calls each other retard because their investment decisions perfectly fit that term.
I agree it is relatively arbitrary, I removed the comment because of the effect it has on the tone of the community- not because of the history of the word.
Dude, context matters. Things can be insulting or not depending of where and when phrase was used. Every smart person understands the intent behind that sentence, and that it was a hyperbole.
Don’t assume other people can’t read context and the intent, because if you do, you’re actually insulting their intelligence
Every smart person understands the intent behind that sentence, and that it was a hyperbole.
You really typed that out and didn’t see the issue?
People with intellectual disabilities can still use social media, they can still pick Lemmy, and they can still see your comment.
And it’s not up to you or me if it’s offensive in any context.
Do you use other slurs like this? Go to a pride parade and start dropping F bombs? BLM protests your just letting the n word fly?
It’s not up to them if it’s offensive, its you’re call if the context makes it ok?
Just stop man. You’re not helping yourself.
People with intellectual disabilities can still use social media
Yes they can. Do you suggest they can’t read with comprehension? You’re actually insulting them by implying that they’re too dumb to understand my intent.
I don’t think you know what an f bomb is.
No one cares if you say fuck, people even have it in usernames…
We’re talking about current slurs…
What do you think I meant?
Being three standard deviations above average isn’t that rare, about 1 in 1200, about the same rate as people who transition oddly enough, so it’s a good comparison.
I… Don’t think trans folks are quite that common, let alone those that undergo transition treatment.
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/
That says 0.51% of adults, and under 18 rates are higher.
1/1200 is 0.83%
0.32% is close enough for an “about” on social media, if we add in under 18 it would get closer, but I’m not doing that much math.
Neither is exactly 1/1200 tho
1/1200 is .000833… So .08%. That’s not how the calculations for finding X in Y people work.
And the source I linked specifically says 1.6 million people in the US aged 13+ identify as trans, which is 0.48% of the 333.3 million people in the US.
We were both wrong, it’s approximately 1 in 208 people. 333,300,000 / 1,600,000 = ~208.
It’s amazing to me that people have issues with medical words, which are turned into epithets, which are then removed from the medical lexicon because they have become epithets, and would use that to derail a discussion on the fact that a full third of Americans don’t want to live in a democracy.
What derailed the conversation was use of slurs…
But if you really want to pull out the old “what’s really a problem is people complaining about bigotry” cars from the Republican deck, go for it.
Unfortunately it wouldn’t be surprising these days, moderates keep acting more and more like trump supporters. Someone asks for basic decency and they get accused of bad faith.
Did you not see how that worked out for Republicans?
Be better
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I’m not a moderate.
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Yes, I saw perfectly how that worked out for Republicans. Corporations are massively scaling back their diversity initiatives and support for the LGBTQ community because the right are allowed to play word games. Also, they elected a fascists once and are on the verge of doing so again, partly because certain alleged Democrats would rather whinge about labels which scares the ignorant masses that make up the voting population.
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One-third of Americans want to be governed at the end of a gun barrel. But please, keep on being so concerned about civility while Republicans push forward their destruction of America.
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It’s their authoritarian dictator so they’ll love it.
Oh yeah, everyone wants their own benevolent dictator that fixes the wrongs of this world with necessary force.
And then Hitler gets into power…
I wouldn’t say that everyone wants their own benevolent dictator, but the ones who have that view can only picture theirs in power. I’m sure Hitler had a bunch of people who liked what he was doing.
They are authoritarians.
A guy in the 90s foretold what will happen, who they are, and why we must outvote them
Also fun fact:
Every tabletop scenario he ran (think like a UN version of Risk) in which the Authoritarians had control, they wiped out everyone with nuclear war including themselves.
I don’t think we’ll go out that way, but I do 100% believe our greed will be our “great filter” that we do not pass. :(
with dwindling resources on a warming planet, I think the likelyhood of a significant nuclear exchange is dramatically increased - perhaps even inevitable.
agree with the great filter. it makes me think that humans, having acted as a great filter for our hominid family tree, are about to reap what we have been sowing for the last 200k+ years.
or this could be a one of many catalysts for speciation. I sometimes feel that some people are already a different species. not better, not worse (not willing to engage in subjective morality) - just different, with different goals, problems and problem solving tools.
the likelyhood of a significant nuclear exchange is dramatically increased - perhaps even inevitable.
Yes. Never has anybody used a weapon only once forever. As long as nukes still exist, they WILL get used again someday. We can’t help ourselves.
Neurodivergent here.
Never grew wisdom teeth.
I’m definetly a branch species
yup. the rise in diagnosed neurodivergency isnt just because tools are better. I think we have genuine, solid frequency increase.
please stay safe.
performs the arm-flap mating dance
I’m just going off what his report said.
And he nailed them to a fucking T
Even well-meaning authoritarians can do terrible things, to say nothing of their eventual replacement. Look what happens to otherwise great companies when the founder dies and is replaced by someone just looking to maximize next quarter profits.
What short-sighted utter fools.
Leopards ate my face energy
We fought a fucking war over this and people still seem to love licking boots.
Stupid people who don’t know how the system works think that they will someday be wearing the boot. They think because they kiss the boot that they’ll never be stomped.
It was a disturbingly close call which side of WWII we were gonna land on. In 1939 the second-largest Nazi party in the world was right here in America.
Reactionaries believe that all of the problems they face are due to the fact that the wrong people are ruling.
They are 100% in favor of a neo-feudal pseudoaristocracy where billionaires are unleashed to rule the States as their fiefdoms and will impose their vision upon their subjects.
Reactionaries do not value individual autonomy except for the privileged man who runs the factory, farm, or family; all others should do as they’re told or face his wrath.
They do not believe in structuring society to be fair and equitable, as is evident by their crusaides against DEI, holding police accountable, women, LGBTQ people, the non-religious, the unhoused, progressive taxes, and welfare.
All they care about is power to enact their will on others.
32% is all you need. Thanks to the perpetual minority rule established by electoral college system
a decade later, somewhere on 4chan
be me
hardcore Trump supporter
Trump wins, I’m ecstatic
world starts going to hell, WW3 kicks off
married with three sons, trying to keep everything together
decide to start a construction company, war efforts boost business
build a bunch of buildings, making bank
get elected to local office, life is on the up and upland a huge contract, biggest yet
build the place, turns out it’s a gay bar
fml
media catches wind, calls me part of the “woke agenda”
sons get drafted into the war, proud but terrified
trying to keep the family safe as the world burns
business takes a nosedive, firebombed by extremists
every building I’ve ever built gets torched
house goes up in flames, barely escape with wifewife blames me for everything, says I’m the reason we’re targeted
receive word from the front lines
“All three of your sons killed in friendly fire”
caskets arrive the next morning
wife loses it completely, leaves the country, I’m left alonearrested, accused of contributing to “trans agenda”
just a foreman trying to get by, now rotting in jail
every dream turned to ash
life was supposed to be perfect
now I’m just a broken man with nothing but regrettfw everything falls apart because of one misguided decision
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This country is cooked that number is way too high.
I have a hard time believing the questions or something is not skewed to get such a high result.
You really can’t imagine that 32% of Americans are idiots? If anything, I’m relieved the number isn’t higher.
32% of polled Americans who will admit it out loud, mind you. That number is absolutely higher. Pew Research found 43% of American adults trust Fox News and they trounce other cable news channels by a long shot. We ain’t never gonna make it.
2/3rds of my neighbors aren’t. more like 10%
32 percent of Americans believe a military regime or authoritarian leader (described as a strong leader who can make decisions without interference from parliament or the courts) would be a good way of governing the country.
They didn’t agree with a statement that explicitly endorsed authoritarianism or military dictatorship. They agreed with a statement that is being interpreted as the equivalent of supporting those things.
And the question itself is very open to interpretation. Does “strong” mean decisive and principled or cruel and dictatorial? Does interference refer to the normal balance of power between the three branches of government, or is it referring to extreme dysfunction, or even unconstitutional actions taken by courts and/or congress that violates constitutional principles.
“No more terrible disaster could befall your people than for them to fall into the hands of a
Hero[Dictator]”Pardot Kynes
From this and other polls it really does seem that most countries would be immeasurably improved if a good third of the population were to spontaneously combust.
I think I know which third it should be.
a military regime or authoritarian leader
Two completely different things in this climate. Anyone else remember when Gen. Miley literally went behind Trump’s back to assure China that the military would block any of his (possible) tantrums?
don’t leave out that trump said milley should be executed for treason
Yeah. Tbh if it came down to military dictatorship or another Trump term, which is almost guaranteed to be a moronocracy, I’d take the latter
I read some research somewhere that found that about a third of the people in any given country are authoritarian shitheads (paraphrasing). The problem is that the unique structure of the US system of government gives said shitheads outsized power and representation relative to their numbers.
