Who’da thunk, battery life sells battery powered devices.
So let’s keep making phones thinner and thinner while simultaneously growing the camera bump instead of making a flat profile with, say, 2 days of life!
So on one hand, I agree with you. On the other hand, I think lightness is a thing people care about. I recently needed to get some photos backed up off an old phone of mine, and I didn’t realize how heavy my current one is until I picked up my old one. Thinness is irrelevant, but a 50% weight difference is not. Other than that, I don’t think most people get much utility out of more than a day of battery life, so 1.5 days new degrading down to 1 seems reasonable and in line with what most people want.
Ask them about the lack of a headphone jack 😉.
Totally agree! I picked up an old iPhone 6s yesterday and I just couldn’t believe how much lighter and thinner it is than the latest models.
On the other hand, I think lightness is a thing people care about.
Yeah, my Galaxy S3 is half as heavy as my current phone. It couldn’t do less but had superior battery life. Smartphones and their OS all have grown bloated.
I think lightness is a thing people care about.
It is. Specifically it is something people do not want.
I have had a LG V30, Pixel 4a and 5, all of which are incredibly light. When I hand it to an iPhone user they tell me it “feels cheap”. You can see this sentiment reflected in phone reviews also.
Well, cheap or not, but in terms of fitting into my pocket a fat rubber-covered dumbphone is better than a modern thin and light one. That plate is just inconvenient. It’s too big. I don’t care how thin it is. A newspaper is thin too.
I agree for first impressions that heavier is perceived as more premium, but after months of actually using a device I can’t fathom that a reasonable person would actually prefer a heavier phone given an equivalent, lighter phone. Even Apple, king of making devices with mass appeal, decided last year that shedding weight was a priority when moving some iPhones from aluminum to titanium.
Harder to drop a heavier thing to a concrete floor, if it’s only held in your palm.
I have a Samsung A71. It permanently lives in its protective case which gives it good bumpers around the easily-breakable edge-to-edge screen. It’s now 4 years old and has survived numerous tumbles and drops over the years.
Occasionally I have to swap the SD card in it and I am always astonished at how thin and light and fragile it is when not in the case.
I would quite happily have an actual similar size phone to what “I have now” if the battery size was bumped up another 50 percent.
You’re blaming the wrong thing again. Newer phones have higher capacity batteries than the old bricks by far. The issue is the screen, SoC, and modem power consumption has gone up too.
In the phone world, the jump in capacity that modern phones have from my 4370mAh battery in my A71 is negligible. They haven’t increased power density much because that way leads to fires and lawsuits when users bend or otherwise damage their ridiculously fragile phones
My point was, if modern phones had the physical space that my phone + case has, they could have a bigger battery, and that bigger battery would then power all the hungry, hungry electronics.
I personally like it, when my devices die in the middle of a sente…
Looks like you had plenty of time to complete it since you took the time to type out the ellipses. If only you had wri
Here you are thinking it was the device when it was actually the robot that malfunctioned over the period and then lost battery.
Looks like you had plenty of time to complete it since you’ve managed to hit the “Send reply” button and the request thus sent to the Lemmy server actually completed, allowing us to now view your intentionally unfinished comment. I think this is
My phone has a 22000mAh battery. I never consider charging it unless I’m going to the woods overnight, and then only to be sure I have a power bank.
What phone has a 22000 mAh battery?
So this thing looks absolutely amazing, but still sports a 19oz size(560g). For reference, my phone is only 7oz (201g). The steam deck, which i regularly hold with two hands, can start to cause pain in the wrists.
I’m sure the kind of person to buy this phone isn’t holding it for numerous hours, but thats still A) a lot of weight to lug around B) I’d imagine it will begin to strain the wrists quickly. Maybe that’s a pro though…
Sounds like my old Ulefone! I once dropped it while getting out of my car and it put a 1.5" diameter dent in the door frame.
Copilot+ is a reason not to buy one of those laptops. It’s a privacy and security nightmare.
Pretending it’s not locked down like the og surface arm devices, I’d consider getting one and totally drop some flavour of linux on it, 3:2 is a great aspect ratio for laptops.
Otherwise yeah, I wouldn’t go anywhere near it
They’re BIOS locked and only accept Windows keys. On the plus side. Tuxedo is developing Linux notebooks with the same powerful, low-power ARM chips.
Yeah, I assumed so, really dislike that you can’t do what you want with hardware you own.
It is not bootloader locked, Linux support is WIP
EDIT: Source here https://www.reddit.com/r/SurfaceLinux/comments/1dnu5nw/comment/ladiom2/?context=3
If you mean app compatibility, the only programs that will have issues are those needing AVX2
Wasn’t even thinking about that, I have an old surface rc2 that’s totally useless because MS abandoned it years ago and it’s locked down so you can’t install an alternate os on it. To be fair, I’m not sure how useful it could be but it’s really about the fact I can’t do what I want with hardware I own.
Is it that different than standard Windows? Either way I’m just hyped that it seems the age of ARM desktops is upon us, I definitely won’t be using any “Copilot+” branded OS though.
I’m not following this story closely but my understanding is that Copilot+ ones have a magical special chip (and keyboard button) and they take screenshots every few seconds so you can search your history. But, at least in the beta releases, they didn’t bother to mask passwords or really anything. You could have a private key in a screenshot.
I would hope by the final release, they add the bare minimum of security and encrypt it all but that’s not really good enough. It’s a misguided attempt to shoehorn Copilot into everything when A.I. can’t even wipe its own ass yet. Maybe someday. Probably not, though.
It’s clearly a gimmick and not an improvement. Press the “copilot button” and get help! But the copilot button isn’t a new button. It’s actually left-Shift + Windows key + F23. Modern computers don’t have F23 key but you can simulate it. I sure hope no hackers learn how to do that and search your entire history!
What you are thinking of is Recall, which is a selling point of Copilot+ PCs. As a correction, recall is opt-in, password protected and encrypted in the latest versions. Hitting the Copilot key will launch Copilot, which is a GPT4 AI assistant. Copilot+ itself just means the pc has
at least 16GB of RAM, 256GB of storage and an NPU (Neural Processing Unit) capable of at least 40 TOPS (trillion operations per second) onboard.
As well as the copilot key on laptops.
that it seems the age of ARM desktops is upon us
But what for? It’s just as proprietary as x86 and drivers are more of an issue.
that it seems the age of ARM desktops is upon us
But what for? It’s just as proprietary as x86 and drivers are more of an issue.
Linux support should be here soon
Is this really a surprise to anyone outside of the AI hype machine?
Not really no, it also likely isn’t a surprise to the engineers and project managers working on these products. Which is likely exactly why they have standout battery life: the project managers knew AI wouldn’t sell so they made the laptops appealing via conventional means anyway.
The project manager wouldn’t have a say in battery life, as it’s really just because of the ARM chip.
And I don’t think anyone thinks Copilot is good in its current form, AI hype or not. It feels like a web app with no real control over the machine.
It’s a common misconception but ARM isn’t inherently better at battery life than x86 though. It’s more that Qualcomm’s designs are as compared to the companies on the market that produce x86 hardware.
TIL, I did some research because of your comment and indeed, the difference in their use cases is mostly a market thing, not so much a limitation of each one. This answer is particularly good at explaining that.
Ah no, more battery life isn’t because of the ARM chip. Not with general usage, outside of minimal instruction set use.
It has control. Screenshoting every couple of seconds.
Linux support also appears to be coming along nicely (though not ready yet).
Linux support also appears to be coming along nicely (though not ready yet).
Linux, as in kernel: Yes. Qualcomm doesn’t develop FOSS GPU drivers, though. freedreno only supports older Adreno GPUs.
It is ready. I only used to dual boot Linux, but I switched completely over 6 months ago with zero issues.
I think he mean on these new, modern ARM laptop. None has actually work well so far. This newer Qualcomm chips are those that they themselves put the effort in. Rest were few far and between - garbage from Qualcomm and rest is from community.
I switched completely over 6 months ago
There were no Copilot+ PCs 6 months ago. Stop lying.
I turn everything that mentions Copilot off. I don’t need this crap and I never asked for it to be made.
I spent a good 20 minutes trying to remove copilot from my windows 10 machine last night. It embedded itself into the taskbar, the edge explorer, and I finally had to go into system components to disable it. No doubt there will be another ms update that will revert all these settings again
At some point you have to ask yourself if it would be less hassle to switch now or to try and tough it out until Windows becomes unbearable.
I spent a good 20 minutes trying to remove copilot from my windows 10 machine last night.
On Windows 11 you can just uninstall it. I did. Win10 is old and about to be unsupported.
On Windows 11 at least, the taskbar button toggle is in the taskbar settings, the second place you’d expect to find it (the first being the right-click menu on the button itself, though there isn’t one). I’m not aware of anything called Edge Explorer, but it looks easy enough to disable in Edge, and I’ve never seen it in Explorer.
I got the Surface Pro X a few years ago purely for battery life, performance be damned. Great decision, and it fit my use-case perfectly. Maybe a little too perfectly for Qualcomm, because I have no reason to upgrade to something more performant when all I cared about was the battery life.
I know how Microsoft can increase battery life by between roughly 50%-100%, depending on model.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-laptop-7th-edition
Battery capacities34
Surface Laptop 13.8”: Battery Capacity Nominal (Wh) 54 Battery Capacity Min (Wh) 52
Surface Laptop 15”: Battery Capacity Nominal (Wh) 66 Battery Capacity Min (Wh) 64
Offer a 100 Wh battery.
I have actually come to prefer using AI instead of a search engine at work for most things sysadmin related (using DuckDuckGo’s AI chat feature), but I 100% have found that Copilot performs far worse than competing products. Having it that engrained in the computer is a very negative feature, despite the battery improvements.
Copilot sucks. Gemeni is a sassy teenager. Chatgpt 4o is actually halfway decent. When they announced Gemeni had a million context tokens, that was awesome. But it can’t give coherent output to save its life. Useless.
“Chatgpt 4o is actually halfway decent.”
I think I need to redo my parameters cuz you aren’t the first person I’ve seen say this. I wasconvinced it got dumber lol
It got worse. We adapted parameters to try to compensate. You didn’t do anything wrong. You’ve just not yet implemented continuous improvement.