• kautau@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Are you hoping that Biden now sets a precedent by using his newfound king powers to assassinate his opponent? I want Trump to lose in a fair election and go to prison for a very long time. Biden using this “the president/king can do whatever he wants” would lead to an immediate civil war

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      The time for a president to not act like a king was before a corrupt court awarded the powers of a king to a president. The only way to turn it back now is for a non-corrupt king to break the corrupt court and then divest himself of powers before a corrupt king ascends to the throne.

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      I want Trump to lose in a fair election and go to prison for a very long time.

      I mean, 2020 happened, he lost in a fair election. He did do crimes that should have landed him jail.

      Now what? You’re saying it’s gonna happen this time?

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      What?! No! This is like a riddle. You assassinate the Supreme court first, THEN pack the court. Then have the new Supreme Court strip the presidency of these new powers.

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        Because history is full of examples of people willingly giving up absolute authority.

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        He has enough troops to hit Congress, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and anyone else he wants at the same time.

        The irony it would be if he called the Official act, “The Purge of Fascism”

        No one would try to bring about an impeachment vote, as they know they would be dead or disappeared before it took place.

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      Hell no, this “When they go low, we go high, bullshit!” is why Roe Vs. Wade was overturned and if we continue that nonsense it will be why Gay Marriage is overturned.

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      Weird how if Biden uses any of the power he has to stop Trump from becoming Fuhrer then it will cause a civil war, but when Trump actually uses that power to become Fuhrer he will face no obstacles.

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        It will still cause a civil war. Also, that was a wild edit from “you’ll fucking wish Biden assassinated Trump”

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          I changed my mind about what I wanted to say, but was I wrong?

          EDIT And I changed my mind again. If Trump is so dangerous, the only way to really stop him is for Biden to win decisively. Instead, he’s behind in fucking New Jersey in the latest polls. If he wins it’ll be razor thin, maybe only by the electoral college or a few counties, and then the fascist Supreme Court will give it to Trump anyway. Lose/lose, at least if Biden does something really funny before he resigns he could make sure Trump can’t become fuhrer.

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          I mean, they’re .ml gaslightings to be expected

          edit: Lmao, 5 replies and I can see none of them. Sorry Tankies, I’m way ahead of you

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            I’m trans in a red state, they’re going to kill me, and the only option I’m allowed to vote for a genocidal mummy who is going to fucking lose because he’s too stubborn and old to realize he has to drop out. Meanwhile, smarmy fucking liberals want to tell me it’s too dangerous for Biden to use his unlimited executive power handed to him by the Court, and they’re frog marching me to my death.

            So yeah, my first instinct was to wish Biden would do literally fucking anything to stop Trump, and he won’t and we’re all fucked.

            EDIT And I’m a stupid fuck and hit enter too quickly sometimes and then think of more stuff I want to say or change my mind about what I wanted to say, and now that I was “caught” being a stupid indecisive fuck because I edited a few minutes after posting I lose this argument so whatever

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              It’s always so easy to get upset by a narrative you create on your own. I mean, adhering to reality is so much work! Right?

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                You accused me of gaslighting people, like I’m some kind of abuser. That put me in a really bad place.

                Here’s reality: Biden is going to get me killed because he won’t do what is best for the country and either resign or stop Trump permanently, and you all are telling me to support this genocidal mummy who would rather get me killed than do the right thing.

                Maybe that makes me a little fucking stressed?

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                  Nope. That’s not how it works. If you are purposefully going to withhold your vote in your own country because think you’re going to make some grassroots change to acts committed by another country- in another country.

                  then YOU are going to get you killed.

                  YOU have the ability to stop that shit. YOU can vote. Votes matter. And if your own safety and well being is worth the risk to make some stupid point-

                  Then you don’t get to put that on someone else. It’s FAR too late in the game to pretend you don’t know what’s at stake.

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                    “Committed by another country” is horseshit, its committed by the US’s unsinkable aircraft carrier with US bombs and US naval defense from its neighbors and US defense in the UN and would be impossible without the unlimited backing of the US government. This is our fault, 100%, I don’t get to wash my hands of it just because it’s being done on the other side of the world by a US proxy.

                    If my vote matters then I have a duty to use it to stop genocide, and this is the only way I can do it. Both the candidates support genocide, if either of them win then the genocide will only get worse. I see Biden being on death’s door is a leverage point and so I am going to use it to increase the pressure, because if he gets replaced at the convention then we get a third choice!

                    They may still support Israel, but Biden has been a staunch Zionist his entire time in office. He’s loyal to the bone. I actually don’t know if they could find someone who is as loyal to Israel and Israel’s interests as Joe Biden. If he gets replaced it might end.

                    And I get to blame you for throwing your support behind genocide instead of joining the push to replace Biden.

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          More accurate: Socialists will always choose to side with fascists over liberals, because they really just want authoritarianism.

          Though it’s probably more accurate to say “tankie” isntead of “socialist”, but since you’re referring to tankies as socialists, I’ll do the same.

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            The great day of victory over Germany has come. Fascist Germany, forced to her knees by the Red Army and the troops of our Allies, has acknowledged herself defeated and declared unconditional surrender.

            -Josef Stalin, May 9, 1945

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      As if that’s not gonna happen when Trump uses said powers? Indecisiveness will doom America. Act! The Heritage foundation, Trump, and the Republicans do. They ask for forgiveness, maybe, but not permission.

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        Indecisiveness = not assassinating the opponent?

        America is doomed. Now both sides are calling for their chosen king to execute the other king. The experiment is over, hyper capitalism disguised as theology won. I want to vote for my chosen president in this election. This thread is telling me I should support my king executing the other king. Even if he gives up that power right after said execution, the president has made a precedent that the “checks and balances” are broken.

        My prediction is that if an execution / forceful power grab is to happen, China will immediately invade the Phillipines and Taiwan, seeing the instability of the US, possibly Japan right after, since our new king will be too busy with the civil war or dismantling the government.

        After that NATO and the EU will remove the US from any seat we have during said civil war, as we are no longer a democratic state.

        The US arms companies will move to supplying the civil war in addition to just pumping Israel full of guns, maybe Russia too since it’s profitable and what even is regulation at this point.

        By the time the US does stabilize, we’re a corporatocracy, as the only things left with real buying power are our tech companies and arms manufacturers, which at this point have their own mercenary security to defend against potential profit loss or have moved to other nations (Apple’s risk management division absolutely has these papers and plans drawn up seeing the political climate)

        Canada will absolutely close its borders, and probably will be a hotbed of attempted immigration, ironically their right wing leaning government fighting the effects of our right wing government.

        But yeah, we should yell at our king to assassinate the other potential king, instead of organizing, donating, campaigning and voting

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          Yes. Pretty much. Exactly. The alternative is Trump. So, yeah. Glad someone else recognizes America as we knew it is over.

          You know the thought experiment where you go back in time and kill Hitler? We’re there. Take out Hitler.

          The alternative is to do what Weimar Germany did and pretend it’s not happening, or, it won’t be that bad.

          Learn from history.