“I’m the nominee of the Democratic Party. No one’s pushing me out. I’m not leaving," he said in a call to the broader campaign

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    God.fucking.dammit.

    When these two debates were announced, I knew it was going to be fucked up, but NO. Oooh he’s got to debate! He’ll show everyone how bad trump is! He needs to do it to help the undecideds!

    Fucking insane gibberish of a person who learned NOTHING from 2016. We got away with it in 2020 on the sheer novelty of an adult, a representative of government, telling trump to shut the fuck up. Now that was good tv. But it was a one-off.

    And now look at this shit. These fuckheads who can’t wait to elect trump are all up in here going “ooooh noooo Biden’s so bad he’s making us have trump be elected!1!!”

    Goddammit. The fucking “Operation gENoSiDE jOe” wasn’t gaining enough traction so THANK FUCK a bunch of Harvard MBA fuckups roundly decided Joe should stand on stage with a demented socopathic rapist who is functionally incapable of telling the truth and, y’know, give folks in the rural areas a little of the ol’, y’know, compare and contrast! What a goddamned brilliant idea. Hey! Let’s do it twice! Yeah! We are soooo smrt.

    Son of a fucking bitch, now we have to watch this garbage-truck-off-a-cliff-in-slow-motion for probably the next three months while all the Li’l Che Guevaras pile in every thread like clowns in a decrepit, backfiring bus, farting and defecating the same pointless key phrases over and over.

    DNC, you fucked up again because you refuse to understand how media works. Trumps out here kicking in windows and laughing and you guys are faxing press releases to republiQan-run news organizations and hoping their spin isn’t terrible. Christ in a bucket.

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      They fucked up losing Bernie Sanders, easy 8 years (people would have grown to love him)

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      Has it ever occurred to you the short bus Che Guevaras were farting the phrases because they saw this coming?

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        They saw Biden was “too unelectable” a year ago? Sure. That’s why they won’t shut up about it. They’re experienced campaign managers. The only reason they weren’t pulling this BS in 2016 is because they were still in middle school. Well, and also because Hillary was polling at 99% the whole time.

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      Oh yeah, of course, people are opposed to genocide because it’s a psyop. Let me guess, Russia is behind it too.

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    Trump didn’t answer a single fucking question and blathered on just as much- yet of course the focus is ALL on Biden. Trump didn’t even have to show up.

    The hate was there before it began.

    Not a word about what “King” Trump said or did…. And here we are. America deserves Trump at this point.

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      Trump didn’t answer a single fucking question

      And that was the best strat for him. Biden was falling apart himself. Letting the man talk was the winning strategy. He was lying and exaggerating but at the end of the day, Biden’s performance was so embarrasingly bad that they didn’t even matter

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      There are two ways to look at this. In one respect you can say why the hell are so many Americans still not grasping just how bad Trump is?

      But then you need to assume the responsibility of being the more informed party and adjust your strategy not for the electorate you want but for the electorate you have.

      And that electorate is demanding a better candidate for Democrats to appeal to said uninformed undecided swing state voters who will decide this election.

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      America deserves Trump at this point.

      The rest of the world doesn’t, he’ll mess things up far beyond the US. Encouraging Russia/North Korea, weakening NATO, all sorts of trade wars, there’s so much he could throw a wrench in.

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      America deserves Trump at this point.

      Only the people who vote for him deserve him. Kinda how that works.

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    I’ll vote for any D, no matter what, but Biden is a sure loser in the general. Independents are fucking mentally defective. You need a showman to win at the margins, where this idiotic election will be decided.

    I can’t believe how many of you are so myopic as to think everything’s fine.

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      So, you’d vote for literally ANY Democrat, no matter WHAT, but you think it’s the independents who are mentally defective? You think anyone who ISN’T 100% committed to political party tribalism is defective? Well, I adamantly disagree. I think it’s the unquestioningly partisan voters who are the defective ones.

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        I get the whole tribalism bad thing but come on, man. How could any D be a worse choice than Trump?

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          They didn’t say they would vote for any D so long as they are better than Trump, they specifically said any D no matter what. There’s a big fucking difference.

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        I think it’s more along the lines of “I don’t want the other guy to win” so they’d vote for a carrot over the offered Republican, who they know what they stand for. They’d prefer a better Dem, but anything to stem the bleeding.

        The mentally deficient ones are the ones that can’t seem to decide when the choices are obvious.

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          Again, you folks are ignoring a key part of what was written. They didn’t say they would vote for any D so long as the Ds can be considered a preferable choice by reasonable and informed people, they LITERALLY said “no matter what.” I sincerely hope you can see a difference.

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            There are currently no democratic politicians worse than trump, so it didn’t really need to be specified.

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            No one is ignoring anything. Well, except you, since you seem to need every bit of context spelled out for you before you can derive intended meaning from four sentences. Like fuck man, I don’t know how you get through the day with that level of incompetence.

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              I get through my days perfectly fine. Quite well, actually. I’m not the incompetent here. The person said that they would vote D no matter what, and that independents must be mentally deficient. The implication couldn’t be clearer: the Democratic party represents the correct, orthodox ideology, and thus they should be supported no matter what, the Republican party represents an incorrect, heterodox ideology, and any independent who doesn’t recognize that must be mentally deficient. To illustrate my point, simply imagine the same statement only with the D replaced with an R. The problem isn’t that some people adhere to wrong ideologies, the problem is ideology itself. Everyone should be an independent, instead of adhering rigidly to one ideology or another. That doesn’t mean all ideologies are equally harmful, and many, if not most, independents know that. In fact, I think many, if not most, independents recognize that Biden and the Democrats are the less harmful of the two options, which is why I think many, if not most, independents will vote for Biden in the general election. Many people are simply confusing independents’ criticisms and displeasure as a failure to recognize that the Democrats are the less harmful option.

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                As multiple people have already explained to you, in this instance, the Democratic candidate is the only realistic way forward. You are, stupidly, expanding that to all choices forever because, again, you can’t seem to pick up on context.

                You know when a walk sign on a traffic light says “walk,” and then it changes to “don’t walk”? You don’t wander into traffic because it said walk ten seconds ago, right? The poster is trying to tell you not to walk into traffic. The next election cycle, they might say something else, because the situation may have changed. Stop reading things that aren’t there.

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                  There was no indication the person was talking specifically about a certain instance, and there’s significant reason to believe their rhetoric is not context specific to the upcoming election alone, as this exact rhetoric has been used multiple times over multiple elections, and I have every reason to believe this exact rhetoric will continue to be used in future elections, even in elections that don’t involve Donald Trump.

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                My man. Why are you arguing with these Lemmy users? They are the same people from Reddit. This argument wouldn’t go down easily on Reddit and it won’t go down here on Lemmy. They live in their own world. Reality will hit them come November. I’ve been around actual people and they are all not feeling Biden. From professionals, businessmen, tradesmen to random people in Walmart and homies sitting at the corner. They’d rather vote Trump. They don’t give a fuck about convictions or the type of person he is.

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    I’m voting against the bad man, but if you ever had any shred of belief that Dems respect your opinion, either this should kill it or your mind can’t be changed.

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      I don’t think an alternate candidate this late in the race is a good idea, and I wonder why you do?

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        Most countries don’t have 13 year election cycles. The UK just had an election in under two months. What makes you think it’s late? Americans, man.

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            surprisingly the prime minister and the Queen both have less power than the American President who is now immune from prosecution. you should give more advice about how to run a democracy