• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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        They absolutely did not. They resisted him every step of the way, especially in 2016.

        And so we never got to see how he would have fared against a Republican.

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    Been saying this. Biden is not up to the mark at all. Not an American but you can’t count on an old man. I don’t want trump bad comments I know. That’s why it’s important to have a better Candidate. Who selects their Candidates? Im not that deeply educated on American electoral process. Also alienating your opposition is not a good strategy, but a lot of people on lemmy insist on it for some reason. Don’t want a world war, so please do something and get a better leader.

    Edit: Apparently i have to also explain that im not suggesting they change their candidate now. That’s brain dead. I do not like trump supporters, i don’t like biden supporters on lemmy. Always so defensive but I understand, that how desperate you are and the situation is.

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      It’s not a big deal, there’s a vice president.

      Not a reason to not vote against the guy who wants to turn the US into Russia 2.0

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        Vote my candidate. Because my candidate is good and turd sandwich is bad. You should vote for giant douche guys. Do you want a turd sandwich to represent amercia. Guys vote for giant douche guys. Tyrone my wife’s boyfriend is voting giant douche guys. So should you guys.

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          As far as I can see, the communist (the left-right political spectrum is a dumb model) message to America is “some of you may die, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.” And I understand why they feel this way, but they should not expect us to accept death without even using the meager power over it that most of us do have.

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            people are already dying man. over in your country and in the middle east and more. your country is already burning books and putting children to work. your fascists are already armed.

            the message is look through that pathetic theather that was put for all the world to see. its a mockery at this point, fascism already took power long ago.

            if you guys don’t actually say enough is enough things will never stop spiraling, and the longer you wait the harder it will be on everyone.

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      With hindsight 2008 Obama/McCain and 1992 Clinton/HW were the only two presidential campaigns in living memory with decent candidates on both sides.

      (Depending on your opinions of Dukakis and whether or not 1988 was in your living memory I suppose)

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    So the choice is between a senile old man with good intentions and a treasonous, syphalitic crook. And the crook has a non zero chance of winning.

    Fuck me, what a shit show.

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        So youre saying you think Trump doesn’t support genocide? Or are you saying it doesn’t matter you just wanna bash Biden.

        Congress loves genocide, doesn’t matter which president.

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            Good thing we’re on lemmy.

            But it’s not whataboutism when we compare the two presidential candidates on their platform and actions.

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              That’s interesting. Why does that standard change so much in the context of presidential candidates compared to every other situation?

              Like, if someone was criticizing, say, Fidel Castro, and instead of addressing it I brought up the problems with the Batista regime that he opposed, would that be whataboutism? Just as in a presidential election, there were two realistic possibilities, either Batista stays in power or he’s overthrown. So if it’s valid to divert from criticism of Biden towards problems with his most realistic alternative, Trump, then why would it not be valid to do the same thing with Castro and Batista, or any number of similar cases?

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                We are talking about a stance of two presidential candidates, the context matter when talking whataboutism.

                In this case, the stance of both candidates on Israel is part of their political platform and we’re in the presidential campaign.

                Whataboutism would be Republicans defending Trump on its criminal charge by talking about Hillary’s emails. Those two things are unrelated.

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                  Understood. So as long as I’m talking about the same metric, I’m allowed to bring up how things were before a socialist government came to power and that’s not whataboutism.

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    In this thread: Depression and angry, and misplaced comparisons.

    This doesn’t change what we need to do, folks. Get Biden back in and use those four years to stay together and fix this bullshit. That’s the goal. I think we ARE angry enough to finally achieve something like it.

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      That’s what they said last time. I’ll hold my nose and vote for him but I don’t expect anything to improve and I’m not going to stop bitching about it.