• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    So… that’s an admission. He can be charged?

    Texas, show us how much you care about protecting kids…

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      The religion itself has nothing to do with it. It’s the position that attracts the abusers. A pastor is a person that members will implicitly trust to be a good person. They won’t even think twice about leaving their children with them. It never occurs to them that a pastor could lie about that just like anyone else.

      For an abuser, faking piousness in exchange for direct unfiltered access to your preferred victims is an easy choice. Heck, you’re even paid to do it.

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      Its easy to understand: they like children and rape, so they put them together to make child rape.

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    What the fuck is wrong with these people? I’ve made it through my entire adulthood without molesting any children…. WITHOUT EVEN TRYING. It’s real easy, the only thing you have to do is not fuck any kids. Do they need to teach that in church or something?

    And they think they can still hold some kind of moral authority? What a sick joke.

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      Are you a paedophile? No? Then that’s why you find it easy.

      Not defending this guy or anyone who harms kids, but to try and compare how easy it is for you not to do, to how easy it should be for those who have urges you and I can’t even imagine not to do, isn’t really productive - it completely ignores the core of the issue - for some people it isn’t that easy, and they need serious help, before they cause harm, not for their struggles to be brushed off as something that isn’t real because the rest of us don’t experience it.

      And just to reiterate, this isn’t a defence, and those who do harm others should absolutely suffer the consequences, but you’re never going to stop that kind of harm from happening again and again if you pretend the problem that causes it doesn’t exist.

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        Well this is a whole community that messed up. His church knew his past and decided to still put him in positions of trust and authority. They could’ve had him do work as a church landscaper or some other non-leadership role if they wanted to still keep him gainfully employed while going through treatment for his issues. Nobody forced the rest of the church leadership to keep him as a minister and pastor when they knew he was capable of abusing a young child for years on end. It is also the responsibility of pedophiles to not put themselves in positions where they have access to children. They might not be able to help their urges, but they can choose not to work around children or share a home with children. There are lots of jobs where children aren’t involved.

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          I’ve made it through my entire adulthood without molesting any children…. WITHOUT EVEN TRYING. It’s real easy, the only thing you have to do is not fuck any kids

          This is what I am replying to.

          None of what you said contradicts anything I’ve said, the only somewhat relevant point you touched on is

          it is also the responsibility of pedophiles to not put themselves in positions where they have access to children. They might not be able to help their urges, but they can choose not to work around children or share a home with children.

          Which only brings me back to my original reply - are you a paedophile? No? Then that’s why you think it’s that easy.

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          to try and compare how easy it is for you not to do, to how easy it should be for those who have urges you and I can’t even imagine not to do, isn’t really productive - it completely ignores the core of the issue - for some people it isn’t that easy, and they need serious help, before they cause harm, not for their struggles to be brushed off as something that isn’t real because the rest of us don’t experience it.

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    5 months ago

    so… jail time? or at least a case? or is that so long ago that statute of limitations is involved?

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      I looked it up, 20 years past 18th birthday… unless, for example, it was continuous. Then there are none.

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        It was continuous. It lasted for five years. So, by TX CCP, there is no time limit to indict him. But, he’s a conservative leader in a red state. He’s never going to be charged.

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    About ten years ago, I worked for a small firm where most of the partners attended this very church.

    One of the reasons I left was that I felt completely out of place as they integrated their religion into the office culture.

    When I left, the managing partner would send me handwritten letters for YEARS effectively telling me that while I had chosen damnation for myself, I owed it to my daughter to have the opportunity for salvation by attending this specific gateway Church in Southlake.

    If I didn’t have so much disdain and bitterness, I’d be tempted to send him this article.

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    Huh, so the right wingers who rage and scream about pedophilia and use that demonize anyone who disagrees with them on any issue, with zero facts, are the actual pedophiles? Color me shocked. If you run across a right winger who is freaking out about pedophiles to the point that they’ve regressed into all caps and are calling you evil while foaming at the mouth… you’re dealing with classic projection.

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    If you have carnal desires so strong as to target underage partnering, and religion being unable to inhibit that mentality, you should steer clear of the organization. Getting into it seeking absolvence will only accentuate your perversity. Self control is called self control because only you can control yourself.

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      *Religious advisor, ain’t nothing spiritual about a man who follows dogma and I’m tired of people confusing spirituality with religon

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          Nah, they’re different, religion is a cancer, spirituality can give people a sense of belonging or being part of something bigger than themselves. Eat some mushrooms and tell me they’re the same thing lol.

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            They’re different, but not opposite. It’s like comparing height and colour.

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            Spirituality, even more than religion, is some broadly used word for all kinds of stuff like healing crystals, zodiac signs etc. A sense of belonging can come from many things, that doesn’t make it true or good per se. What you are describing is drug use. Spirituality may sound better for you, but it’s just bullshit for drug use. I’m not judging, but it is what it is.

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              I’m sorry you feel that way.

              A better inner-life (a more spiritual outlook) is actually key part of recovery from drugs and mental illness and can ignore god completely. Drugs can help experience it but aren’t necessary, my mushroom comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek but they have been used for millenia as a shortcut or aid to shamans and medicine men. To write off multiple cultures experiences as “just drug use” is incredibly dismissive and arrogant.

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                A better inner-life is possible without intermixing it with intangible hocus pocus. Calling something “spiritual” or retracting to it beeing “culture” is often used as protection against criticism and I see you do it here. Something can be culture and still be criticized or called out for what it actually is. Slavery has been part of pretty much every culture at some point. Would you call me arrogant when I say it’s still inhumane and criminal behaviour? And thats what I do. It’s been culture for centuries, but all the time, it was also “taking drugs, feeling like beeing part of something bigger charged with magical thinking”.

                edit: All you say about spirituality can be said about religion. It helps people and gives them purpose and has been culture for thousands of years. Yet, you say

                religion is a cancer

                Isn’t that way more disrespectful, dismissive and arrogant that what I am doing? Whats your measure here?

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          Are you an athiest ?

          There’s a reason I hate both religous people and athiests and part of it is because religous people follow dogma and athiests act like assholes towards people they view as beneath them and insert themselves in academia where they don’t belong

          Both religous people and athiests have a holier-then-thou attitude

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            The word is ‘atheist’, you got the e and i mixed up.

            I have not acted like an asshole, I have just pointed out facts, while the other called religion cancer. How am I the supposed asshole? Not giving in to bad arguments is not “acting like an asshole.”

            I also do not view anyone beneath me, that’s a mean insinuation and most likely the beginning of a fabulous strawman.

            insert themselves in academia where they don’t belong

            What would that be an what does that have to do with anything I wrote?

            I hate both religous people and athiests

            Hating people is a bad thing.