• BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee
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      7 months ago

      When a skydiver died skydiving, do you really blame the pilot of the airplane that got him up there? These are adults who choose to believe in fairytales

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      7 months ago

      The Hajj has been taking place over 1000 years. Hyper-aggro heatwaves in June is a new thing however. It wasn’t religion, it was climate change.

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            7 months ago

            Yeah and all the communist states are super ecologically friendly, oh no you don’t belive they are communist do you? Handy.

            But let’s imagine a perfectly communist society, are workers all able to heat their house? Able to travel freely? Enjoy hobbies? If you answered yes to these then your either going to need magic or energy.

            You can’t just pretend capitalism is responsible for everything bad, unchecked consumption can happen in any system as can over production, ecological destruction, and all sorts of potential problems. I would love to transition to a decent type of communism but I’m not going to pretend it’ll fix the climate on its own.

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        7 months ago

        Yeah that would be a good story and support some preconceived notions but Mecca has always been incredibly hot, you can’t just rewrite history to suit the message you want to send.

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          7 months ago

          Precisely. Mecca has always been incredibly hot and yet pilgrims have not been dropping like flies. Ostensibly because over the centuries certain common religious/pilgrimage practices have helped them cope with the heat. But when climate change moves the needle to 11, those centuries old religious/pilgrimage practices no longer work to protect people.

          That is the message I’m trying to send; what’s yours?

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          7 months ago

          Mecca has always been incredibly hot

          What even is the difference between 40°C and 50°C? They’re both “incredibly hot” aren’t they? Quit your complaining.

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        7 months ago

        They all know the consequences and they think God will protect them from whatever… Yeah, religion killed them.