I wish we had less selection, in general. My family lives in Spain, and I’ve also lived in France. This is just my observation, but American grocery stores clearly emphasize always having a consistent variety, whereas my Spanish family expects to eat higher quality produce seasonally. I suspect that this is a symptom of a wider problem, not the cause, but American groceries are just fucking awful by comparison, and so much more expensive too.
Fresh food is weirdly expensive in the US. Got to give the US props for being consistently expensive when it comes to health related expenses I guess.
It seems bizarre for such a rich country to have the priorities so backwards.
health and well being? Nah.
What I would give for an actual fresh greengrocer 😔
Move to straya, plenty of jobs atm, free healthcare, not a lot of homes and no where near the consumer brand choice. But it also means rich are not as rich, and no guns (by comparison) so kids are safe in schools!
Most supermarkets have plenty of fresh food, its better and cheaper to buy from farmers markets, but you can get by with the super chains( not going to get into the profiteering from them, save that for another day).
I’m visiting Bangkok currently, so: definitely custard apples and mangosteens. Snake fruits and guava and the specific type of tangerines they use as “oranges” over here, too. And the green skinned “sweet oranges” which are also awesome. And like all the various types of mangos you can get in Thailand.
Also, I’m taking “available” to mean “purchasable, and ripened mostly on the vine”, because the stuff that gets shipped internationally is picked SUPER unripe just so it doesn’t spoil before sale.
Basically, I would fucking LOVE it if there was a Thai grocery in my city that flagrantly violated the Washington Treaty.
For real though, if you ever get the chance to try a ripe custard apple, they’re absolutely fucking delicious. Can’t recommend it enough.
Apricots. They’re available, but they’re always shitty.
I’d kill for apricots like you can get in the EU. Cheaper than here and they were delicious, not mealy and bland.
Agree. Good apricots are elusive. I have had them but 99% of the time they go straight from underripe to mealy.
Bananas other than the Cavendish and a greater variety of potatoes. There are supposed to be so many varieties of each out there, but we only get one banana and 3 or 4 potatoes.
The cherimoya is also pretty good from what I remember, so I would like to have that again for >$5.
I had a cherimoya in Spain and I LOVED it. Impossible to find here in NA though :(
I got mine from a higher end grocery store (Wegmans) so something like that is your best bet. Keep searching!
Ooo, the Ugli Fruit aka Jamaican Tangelo was good too that I found there!
Big fan of cherimoya ✋ Looked into ordering some online once, the price is insane
The variety of bananas in Vietnam was great. I was going to put that here since they are impossible to import quickly enough.
I’m Canadian but for some reason you never see tangerines anymore. Plenty of other citrus but not tangerines
I also would like to see pink and red fleshed apples in the store. And pawpaws. I sometimes get some from my local farmer friend and they are SO good but hard to come by.
the Gros Michel banana. I never had the chance to try one before they were wiped out.
edit: and the Hua Moa banana, because it looks silly
I’ll tack on apple bananas. They’re tiny and taste like an apple and a banana had babies.
Apple bananas are freaking amazing. I’m always so happy when we score some at the Asian grocery. That little pop of acidity makes all the difference.
The Gros Michel isn’t fully extinct, you can still buy them as delicacies. But from what I’ve heard they aren’t that great, just different to the Cavendish
I feel like this thread is going really be “available in your part of the US.”
Grocery stores and populations are pretty varied across the US. What you can easily get in a San Francisco, Manhattan, or Boise grocery store can differ quite a bit.
The original intent was to learn about fruits and veggies that most americans would be unaware of or dont have access to eg. brazilian grapes, ube, drumstick, adzuki beans etc. but good point.
Drumstick 🤤🥺
I prefer the Kentucky Fried cultivar
I have a hard time finding black currant
Yes! As a Scandinavian living in the US: I would love to see black currant, red currant, and gooseberries in my grocery store.
And cloudberries! I want to taste cloudberries!
I’ve heard rumors that, while we see two kinds of mango in the US, there are many more varietals in India, and they’re all better. I’d like to have access to some of those; mangoes rock.
Oh there are like many varieties of mangoes z but hands down best is called hapoos or alphonso, it’s so so good. I recently found it EU due a colleague and tasted other varieties too such as kesar ( in think it means orange) , in could eat the peel also . The only place that you might get is Indian grocery stores in the areas specially now to end of julyi guess
I suspect this is like our tomatoes. The tomatos you buy in stores were cultivated to be pretty, to get harvested by a machine, and to ship without getting damaged. Meanwhile, heirloom tomatoes will split their skin on a humid day, but they pack a ton more flavor in. The same is true for the vast majority of our fruit and veg. Actually ripened on plant produce doesn’t have a very long shelf life.
That’s not what heirloom tomatoes are. Heirloom means they’re not hybrids. There are loads of heirloom and hybrid varieties with all kinds of properties, flavours, shapes and sizes.
I was generalizing about heirlooms not being very easy to grow to modern standards. I grow a decent verity of heirlooms and hybrids and the hybrids don’t split nearly as often.
Also large tomatoes which split are usually classed as beefsteak tomatoes. There are heirlooms like Brandywine and hybrids like Brandy Boy. And if you don’t grow tomatoes yourself you’ll never know the difference.
And if you don’t grow tomatoes yourself you’ll never know the difference.
What do you mean? Once you have home grown, or even farm stand, produce you realize that the vast majority of grocery store stuff is picked before it’s really ripe.
You’re confused.
Huckleberries. I never see them as a commonly available thing in stores, eaten alongside things like bananas, which sucks, because bananas are some plant grown like a thousand miles away and I can go outside and go gather my own huckleberries if I wanted. It should be really easy, I live in an area where they grow.
So, that, but also just more broadly I kind of think that after learning enough about different regional botany, we’ve both crippled basically every ecosystem with a bunch of invasive species, we’ve crushed the human experience into a very narrow square set of experiences which includes the biodiversity that you can see around wherever you are, and we’ve made food worse. Because we’re not using local plants for our food, you see, we’re just using a bunch of generic ingredients that are sort of unnaturally made out to be universal across entire hemispheres, maybe even across the globe. No regional variation outside of specialty goods, only Mcdonald’s.
The thread’s gonna be against this opinion broadly, I think, but there’s not like, it’s not just the huckleberry, you understand, there’s a lot more out there that you don’t know about, both edible and not.
Huckleberries. I never see them as a commonly available thing in stores,
Visit the Nordics in June-July.
Markets full of them.
Hell, you don’t need to buy any, just walk into any forest and start picking.
First, note that there are a number of plants called the “huckleberry”.
My guess is that @[email protected] has good odds of talking about Vaccinium membranaceum. I’ve had that in Idaho, and consider it to be pretty good.
People pick it in the wild, but it hasn’t been successfully domesticated. Much of the plant lives underground, and it depends on very specific conditions that are hard to reproduce on farms. You can buy some wild-foraged berries, but they’re a pain to get, so available for limited periods of time and relatively-expensive.
I don’t believe that those grow in Europe, and in fact, looking online, the name “huckleberry” only showed up in the Americas, after European colonists misidentified an American berry as the European-native “hurtleberry”. You might be thinking of a different type of berry; googling, I don’t see people talking about huckleberries in the Nordics.
We also have a plant called “huckleberry” around the Bay Area in California, Vaccinium ovatum, which is easier to find in the wild, grows larger and more (albeit smaller) but a lot less impressive, in my experience.
It’s a variety of bilberry.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccinium_myrtillus
The name huckleberry comes from “hurtleberry” -> “whortleberry”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huckleberry#Nomenclature
[1]Cited as “U.S. 1670” in Onions, CT (1933). Shorter Oxford English Dictionary. Vol. 1 (3rd ed.). Oxford: Oxford University Press. p.
No-one misidentified anything, per se. Taxonomy in the 1600’s just wasn’t anywhere near what it is today, and you’d be well in your rights calling the berry with the same name, just like I’m sure you call apples apples instead of going by the variety of subspecies. (And “apple” used to even mean even wider set of fruits. That’s where the word for “orange” here in the Nordics comes from, “Appelsin” = “Chinese Apple”)
Thin-walled bell peppers like you find in Japan and China. Even the local Asian grocery stores don’t sell them, and I can find pretty much anything else.
Like the Shephard peppers?
No, very different. These are like miniature bell peppers with thin walls. Shepherd peppers are not so small and have thick walls.
Takii’s New Ace is a variety I’ve grown.
Fiddleheads
Finger limes
You can’t import yuzu fruits or plants. All the yuzu in the US is descended from the 100 original plants imported before it was made illegal.
But really, I want soft cheeses…
Google says they taste like a mix of lemon, orange and grapefruit. Is that accurate?
I’ve had it here in Europe.
Personally, I think it tastes like a lemon that went bad. Like, kind of an uncanny valley thing. It’s close enough for me to think it’s one thing but far enough away from me to know it is definitely not what I want.
More like lemon-lime-pomelo, but WDIY.
We can get yuzu fruit here (Florida) but couldn’t get the seeds to sprout, not sure how the trees are propagated. Anyway - the fruit is underwhelming, the zest is divine, I made a yuzu kosho, it is delicious.
Almost all fruit trees are clones. You’d need a cutting.
Huckleberry but apparently they are really difficult to farm.
I’ll be your huckleberry
