President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump have both accepted an invitation from CNN to debate on June 27, a historically early showdown that will set the tone for the final months of the 2024 campaign.
Did it? I don’t know if that debate last time change anyone’s mind. I know liberals and leftists were horrified at how Trump behaved, but they already were horrified at how he behaved. On the other hand I know conservatives personally who thought Trump showed he was strong in that debate whatever the fuck that means.
He won’t. The majority doesn’t want Trump. And I know… electoral college and shit - but people has wised up. That’s why Trump lost last time, and will lose again next time.
IDK, I think it’s going to be very close. Quite a few people I know who disliked Trump over Biden in the last election now favor Trump. Many are in demographics you wouldn’t expect. Most never vote though.
What makes you think that? Trump voters love him. Between the economy and Israel’s actions, Biden voters are pretty damn disaffected at this point. It was close last time (he won the tipping point state by a mere 0.6%), so it doesn’t take too many people staying home to result in Trump winning.
If you think that Americans are affected enough by Gaza to vote for Trump you are flat out insane. He lost once already and there’s no way he’s gained voters. He’s accrued a multitude of criminal charges. You say " Trump voters love him. " And that’s true, but there aren’t many left. Media will have you believe it will be close, so that they can keep your eyes on their content.
No one is going to vote for Trump over Gaza. They’re just not gonna vote. And you must live in some kind of bubble if you think Trump supporters have changed their minds over the last 4 years. Some of them have since 2016. But if they supported him in 2020, they’re supporting him now. Trump doesn’t need anyone new to vote for him, just for a small percentage of people who showed up for the record turn out election in 2020 to not this time around.
They don’t have to be the majority. They just have to show up to vote in some swing states where Biden voters don’t bother. President isn’t based on who has the majority. It’s based on a) turn out and b) electoral college. It doesn’t matter if everyone and their mom turn out to vote democratic in California. It matters if about 20,000 people in Wisconsin who voted Biden last year decide it isn’t worth the trouble this year.
NO! FFS idiot DNC consultants are going to fuck this up again.
From the same people that foisted decades of republican-lite candidates on us.
Why? Didn’t it work last time?
Did it? I don’t know if that debate last time change anyone’s mind. I know liberals and leftists were horrified at how Trump behaved, but they already were horrified at how he behaved. On the other hand I know conservatives personally who thought Trump showed he was strong in that debate whatever the fuck that means.
So what you’re saying is that this debate won’t change anything either? I’d be okay with that. But it surely will be entertaining.
It can ONLY hurt Biden.
It will ONLY hurt Biden.
There IS NO UPSIDE.
This is just basic post-2016 common sense.
Debating Trump will hurt Biden?
Trump??!!
Trump.
Nope. It will help Biden.
We don’t need to go back to 2016, when 2020 was there.
It’s been pretty obvious Trump is going to win again for at least six months now, but just like in 2016 the DNC marches us towards our mass graves.
Are you on drugs? There’s no way he wins.
I desperately wish I had your optimism and conviction.
I hope he doesn’t, but…
What’s your logic in thinking he has any chance at all?
He won’t. The majority doesn’t want Trump. And I know… electoral college and shit - but people has wised up. That’s why Trump lost last time, and will lose again next time.
IDK, I think it’s going to be very close. Quite a few people I know who disliked Trump over Biden in the last election now favor Trump. Many are in demographics you wouldn’t expect. Most never vote though.
Trump is doing slightly better in the polls than Biden: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/
People’s money are on Trump winning (slightly): https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-chances-beating-joe-biden-six-months-before-election-day-1897978
https://polymarket.com/event/which-party-will-win-the-2024-united-states-presidential-election?tid=1715838452989
What makes you think that? Trump voters love him. Between the economy and Israel’s actions, Biden voters are pretty damn disaffected at this point. It was close last time (he won the tipping point state by a mere 0.6%), so it doesn’t take too many people staying home to result in Trump winning.
If you think that Americans are affected enough by Gaza to vote for Trump you are flat out insane. He lost once already and there’s no way he’s gained voters. He’s accrued a multitude of criminal charges. You say " Trump voters love him. " And that’s true, but there aren’t many left. Media will have you believe it will be close, so that they can keep your eyes on their content.
No one is going to vote for Trump over Gaza. They’re just not gonna vote. And you must live in some kind of bubble if you think Trump supporters have changed their minds over the last 4 years. Some of them have since 2016. But if they supported him in 2020, they’re supporting him now. Trump doesn’t need anyone new to vote for him, just for a small percentage of people who showed up for the record turn out election in 2020 to not this time around.
I think you’re going to see the biggest landslide election in our lifetimes towards Biden.
Trump voters love him, but they’re not the majority. Trump will lose again.
They don’t have to be the majority. They just have to show up to vote in some swing states where Biden voters don’t bother. President isn’t based on who has the majority. It’s based on a) turn out and b) electoral college. It doesn’t matter if everyone and their mom turn out to vote democratic in California. It matters if about 20,000 people in Wisconsin who voted Biden last year decide it isn’t worth the trouble this year.
Correct. And all that already happened in 2020 when Trump LOST while being a sitting president.
More people will vote against Trump, including this recently naturalized 'Merican.
Trump lost the last elections while being a sitting president. Why do people keep forgetting that?