• Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works
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    Technology making labour obsolete is the goal we should all be wanting.

    Attack capitalism not the technology.

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        That’s kind of the point though isn’t it? It’s not the car’s fault we can’t afford the gas. We need to stop arguing about the ethics of using AI and start arguing about the ethics of the people using it unethically.

        There is a person in that studio that suggested using AI, there is a person who gave the go ahead to do it. Those people need to be the problem, not the toy they decided to play with.

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          That’s a very naive perspective though. We’re not blaming the guns for gun violence, it’s the people, but restricting access to guns is still the proven way to reduce gun incidents. One day when everyone is enlightened enough to not need such restrictions then we can lift them but we’re very far from that point, and the same goes for tools like “AI”.

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              It’d be dead easy, actually. Don’t even have to actually ban it: For image generating models, every artist whose work is included in the training data becomes entitled to 5 cents per image in the training data every time a model generates an image, so an artist with 20 works in the model is entitled to a dollar per generated image. Companies offering image generating neural networks would near instantly incur such huge liabilities that it simply wouldn’t be worth it anymore. Same thing could apply to text and voice generating models, just per word instead of per image.

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              Very easy time if it’s about commercial use (well, at least outside of china). Companies need to have licenses for the software they use, they have to obey copyright laws and trademarks, have contracts and permissions for anything they use in their day to day work. It’s the same reason why no serious company wants to even touch any competitor’s leaked source code when it appears online.

              Just because AI tech bros live in a bubble of their own, thinking they can just take and repurpose anything they need, doesn’t mean it should be like that - for the most case it isn’t and in this case, the law just hasn’t caught up with the tech yet.

    • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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      In practice, capitalism will use technology to subjugate others instead of allowing technology to free us from work.

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      yea, see i just don’t like how we first automated creativity instead of like, idk, manual labor???

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            And do you wash your clothes in a bucket, wring them out in a mangler before beating your rugs with a stick to get the dust out of them?

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              And I don’t make my own paints either when doing art. I still agree with the basic original point:

              It is disappointing that we’re currently automating creativity far faster than manual labour. I’m angry that my art is getting automated away faster than my folding of laundry.

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                The original point being:

                yea, see i just don’t like how we first automated creativity instead of like, idk, manual labor???

                emphasis mine, but this is just incorrect. Technology has been reducing the need for manual labour (or rather increasing the amount of useful work done with manual labour) since the wheel and the plow.

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                It’s not; you’re just looking at the beginning of automating creativity when labor automation has been going on for over a hundred years. The introduction of new tech is always more disruptive than refining established tech. Besides which, VA is particularly sensitive to disruption because every VA does essentially the same job- one AI can be programmed to speak in thousands (millions?) of different voices, whereas one manual labor job doesn’t necessarily require the same actions as another.

                Also it’s funny you complain about laundry, given how much doing laundry has been automated.

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          And people still have to lift heavy shit, crawl around in dangerous spaces and generally harm their health to make a living.