• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    They don’t understand that Trump is just as pro-Israel as Biden, if not even more so considering he moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.

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      6 months ago

      And once again, as the foreign trolls that are busy courting our youth want, not one comment in this entire thread mentions that Europe is on the brink of open modernized war should Ukraine fall to vlad “Ukraine is just a stepping stone” putin.

      Gaza is a genocide, but that is not the critical geopolitical stage to be paying the most attention to. Once again it is completely ignored that the heads of hamas who attacked israel on oct 7 knowing exactly what they were about to cause are friends of putin.

      The Gaza genocide was provoked precisely to pull western eyes from the Ukrainian front where russia was more than underperforming to ensure their victory in a sustained war of attrition.

      You want to avoid a world war? You vote for biden whether u do it proudly or do it holding ur nose the way most of the sane will.

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        6 months ago

        The Gaza genocide did not start on Oct 7, much like the Russian incursion on Unkraine did not start in Jan 2022. Both of those are tremendous blights on human rights and should be equally condemned.

        Of course, voting for Biden is the only stable option as much as one may lament that it shouldn’t be.

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            6 months ago

            The other candidate will also support the Gaza genocide. Again, it’s unfortunate that both candidates are evil. And supporting the lesser evil is a bad long term strategy.

            But, here we are.

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      6 months ago

      Congress is bipartisan pro-Israel. This isn’t even a presidential issue.

      Biden just happens to be the guy doing the pro-Israel stuff at the moment, so he’s eating the lions share of the public ire.

      “You have to support the Pro-Israel guy because the other guy is pro-Israel and both party leaders are pro-Israel and the cops are trained by Israelis and Israeli businesses have strong ties with the MIC and Big Finance needs Israel to control trade through the Suez and you’re outnumbered and outgunned so quit fighting, just vote for Joe Biden” just isn’t a winning message among progressive voters this year.

      Maybe try it again in 2026.

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        6 months ago

        The thing is: Biden is pro-Israel but also pro-Palestinians. He’s providing aid to Gazans and pressuring Israel to minimize civilian casualties. It’s not great, or even good, I agree - but it’s a whole lot better than Trump who would be pro-Israel and anti-Palestinians. You’d see humanitarian aid end and the US support total war instead of the (slightly) restrained version we’re seeing now.