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Very weird that I am so old and have literally never heard this mentioned in a TV show or book or movie or anything.
In four out of five states, if you go to prison, you are literally paying for the time you spend there.
As you can guess, this results in crippling debt as soon as you’re released.
The county gets back a fraction of what they hold over your head the rest of your life until you commit suicide(or die naturally and peacefully with the sword of damocles hanging over your head).
$20-$80 a day according to Rutgers.
Counties apparently sue people and employ wage garnishment to get back the money that majority of people obviously cannot pay back.
https://www.rutgers.edu/news/states-unfairly-burdening-incarcerated-people-pay-stay-fees
You consent to all these issues with your vote for Dems. I on the other hand will express democracy by voting for a candidate that opposes this: Jill Stein.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_effect
Biden or Trump winning is a major loss. Instead build a better party instead of complaining.
They aren’t equal. They’re both shit, but they aren’t equal. And I don’t know about you, but I’d rather keep my right to vote, which is under threat thanks to the likes of Trump.
Not seeing anything you’ve built. All I see is you complaining about Biden and Trump.
If you want better, we need electoral reform. Our current system is mathematically biased against third parties.
How do you think you get electoral reform? Because the democrats sure as hell are never gonna give it to you if you keep voting for their garbage bottom of the barrel candidates. American politics really are a shit show, you’re trying to act like you’re the reasonable one but getting so damn belligerent.
Mass protests, general strikes, voting in progressives that actually stand a chance, etc.
I know they won’t, which is why you vote in the primaries.
You know who sure as hell are never gonna give it to you? Third party candidates. You can’t make reform if you don’t get voted into office in the first place.
Genrrallt you don’t get bottom of the barrel candidates if you actually work to put forth good candidates in the primaries. And a bottom of the barrel democrat with always be better than an outright fascist republican.
Hey, if you don’t like how I’m responding, maybe don’t start with saying things like
Practice what you speak.
Name one time when you havent gotten a bottom of the barrel candidate? Look what they did to my boy Bernie. He wasn’t even ideal but at least he had a shot and the democrats you’re praising tanked him. They’re playing you, intentionally holding up an awful boogeyman constantly and saying “if you don’t vote for our piece of shit we’re gonna give you the bigger piece of shit.” The only way to win is not to play their game. Maybe if they lose enough voters they’ll get the message but they sure as hell won’t if you keep letting them win.
Summer Lee
I’ve voted for her at least 4 times now to get her into office and keep her there throughout the last few primaries and generals.
I am well aware, and I’m pissee off about that too. It should have been Bernie for the last 8 years.
I think you don’t understand where I am coming from. In no way am I praising the democrats that tanked him.
Yeah, I know they’re using it to their advantage. It shitty as fuck, and a direct result of our electoral system. They know that third parties aren’t viable due to the mathematical requirement of the spoiler effect being a part of our current system. So they use it to their advantage.
But there is the thing, under Trump, we may lose our right to vote. We might end up seeing a true dictatorship. He’s already floating the idea of a second Jan 6th.
I’d rather live in the current corporate run dystopia than an outright fascist version called Gilead.
Yeah, I’m really going to feel like I’m winning when I’m lined up against a wall under the next Trump administration.
The Biden campaign managers know they’re losing voters to this shit, they aren’t that stupid. They’re gambling that the status quo will land them the most votes. It’s fucking stupid, but they clearly don’t care about losing votes to this issue.
The one who just voted for the military industrial complex with H.R.8035?
You continue to vote for a party that has a rigged primary with super delegates.
Remember you consented to this.
you mean to tell me you’re going to vote for jill stein in november? what state do you live in? it better not be a battle ground state
Absolutely, because she is the candidate of the largest party I agree with.
do you understand how american elections work? are you in a battleground state?
That is how elections work, I’m the one acting democratically here
DO. YOU. LIVE. IN. A BATTLEGROUND STATE?
Irrelevant. Stein is closest to what I support, so I vote for her.
i’m not going to argue with you. i can see from your comment history that you’re a lost cause. you are damning people to consequences they don’t deserve, which makes you no different from conservatives. you are effectively the enemy and deserve to be treated the same.
This is you telling poor people to vote for wealthy Dems