• TheFonz@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      You only addressed half the statement. They are not saying that Israel doesn’t take civilian hostages. They are questioning the claim that Hamas doesn’t take civilian hostages. Follow the thread please.

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        7 months ago

        Is there any evidence that Hamas has taken new hostages since October 7th? Because AFAIK there isn’t.

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          7 months ago

          A temporal attribute has not been included in this statement:

          Hamas just hasn’t been taking civilian noncombatants as hostages like Israel has been doing.

          But you have added a temporal qualifier:

          taken new hostages since October 7th

          I think maybe that’s where the disconnect is? I don’t know. I don’t know who or what you’re arguing against.

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            7 months ago

            No you are changing the statement yourself. The statement is

            Hamas just hasn’t been taking civilian noncombatants as hostages like Israel has been doing.

            Israel is widely kidnapping mostly innocent civilians whereas Hamas very much targeted military for kidnapping.

            This is as obvious as the lower than 2/3 civilian casualty rate for Hamas whereas israel has a far higher civilian casualty rate.

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              7 months ago

              Sources? Do I even want your sources at this point…last time I asked for evidence you gave me a verbal statement by the prime minister and that was good enough in your book. You really don’t need much convincing when the evidence aligns with your bias, do you?

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                7 months ago

                Last time you got a source you denied reality and pretended that “no that doesn’t count”. I’m not sure why you are bringing this up it only makes you look bad.

                Israel social security data reveals true picture of Oct 7 deaths

                The final death toll from the attack is now thought to be 695 Israeli civilians, including 36 children, as well as 373 security forces and 71 foreigners, giving a total of 1,139.