• Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I definitely sympathize with people in college debt, but this feels like just temporary wins and doesn’t address the real problems. This won’t solve the overpriced cost of education. Forgive debt now, a new crop of students will just go into debt next, right?

    We need universities to be completely free, universal single payer health care, drastically cheaper housing to rent and own, etc.

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      7 months ago

      Why do you want free universities for degrees that actually give a net benefit?

      And the reason housing is so expensive is directly due to government intervention in housing.

      • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        7 months ago

        And the reason housing is so expensive is directly due to government intervention in housing.

        Fuck off you conservative dipshit, try your incredibly wrong talking points somewhere people aren’t gonna see right through it

      • ᗪᗩᗰᑎ@lemmy.ml
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        7 months ago

        because I’m not a piece of shit and want to see my fellow Americans do better. a rising tide lifts all boats.

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            7 months ago

            Wow TIL all degrees are useless.

            What’d you get your degree in? Maybe you got a useless one.

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                Dude you must think they get their degrees in feminist dance or some boogeyman degree. News flash you want some people to get good jobs with that “useless” feminist dance degree. Because if not, they’re going to crowd into degrees like engineering and greater numbers of engineering grads creates greater competition for engineering jobs… which drives down the pay that most engineers get, plus it reduces the odds of actually getting a starter engineering job. Supply & demand.

                Signed, 100% NOT a feminist.

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                  The market pretty much tells us what are useful and useless degrees. The issue with your theory is that people do crowd into engineering and then the joke is after they fail they do business.

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                    7 months ago

                    So when they shipped computer engineering jobs overseas the market was saying computer engineering is useless? Man you really know a lot of things that simply aren’t true.

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          Sure, in short housing is too difficult and too expensive to build to keep up with demand. All this is due to government requirements on housing which adds over $100k on average per single family house, as well as it just being a general headeache. And this doesnt even get into the currency manipulation issue.

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            7 months ago

            What requirements though?

            And the government doesn’t control monetary policy, so can you expand on that too?

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              There are probably 1000 different requirements for each small town and then add the state and national ones to that. The requirements will be things like getting an engineering report if you remove more than 10 yards of dirt, or add a roof element that makes the house look good.

              The government does control the supply of money via the Federal Reserve. If you are interested I can tell you how it directly makes the rich richer and takes the wealth of the middle class and poor.

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                7 months ago

                waaaaaaa regulation makes stuff more expensive to do, get rid of it so we can make money at the expense of the ppooooooooorrrrrrssss

                Classic conservative

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                7 months ago

                The fed is independent. If you’d like, I can give you a primer on how that works

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        7 months ago

        That’s 100 percent, certified bullshit.

        Government could fix housing SUPER fast. Tax rental payments on single-family homes at 100% to make SFR build-to-rent impossible.

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            I work in municipal development.

            100% of new single-family developments approaching the city over the last 2 years have been for build-to-rent exclusively. The existing SFR homes are being bought up at massively inflated prices to convert them into rentals.

            The only reliable way to buy a home for your family to live in within 50 miles of the city is to buy empty land and have a custom million+ dollar house built, because the existing inventory is being grabbed up by rental investors and new inventory isn’t even being made available for sale.

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      7 months ago

      When someone is having a heart attack you don’t give them a lecture on the importance of diet and exercise.

      There is a problem now, solve it. Fix the root cause next.

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          If a house starts burning do you try to put it out, or kick the can down the road and let it burn so you can build a new one?

          Bad analogy

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            7 months ago

            We let these half measures go through and nothing gets done later because just enough was done to shut the masses up.

            Be happy with your bandages. 🤷

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      7 months ago

      I agree but that would require Congress to do something. Trying to accomplish this through executive actions alone might not actually work, but it at least shows voters clearly which party is willing to take action on this issue, and hopefully we will end up with a Congress that is more in line with the will of the people.

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        7 months ago

        I think this might be my key takeaway. He is wiling to address exactly this problem and might continue in the future. Even if you don’t benefit from it, it shows a clear path he is willing to take.