• LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    Nope, Biden and Trump are the only options. Neither of them will do shit for the Palestinians in terms of making things better. The only option is to vote strategically to keep the worst guy out, and that’s Trump.

    Anyone who does anything in the general besides voting for Biden bears responsibility if Trump wins. That’s just a fact of the two party system we have.

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        8 months ago

        Doing that also lets Trump in. Actively standing in the way of a fascist takeover by Trump requires showing up for Biden at the polls.

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            8 months ago

            I’m sure all the LGBTQ+ folks, Muslims, and racial minorities of America who will be immeasurably harmed by another Trump presidency would disagree.

            What an unconscionably privileged position to consider voting for Biden to stop Trump to be not with it.

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              People are dying right now. That’s not a hypothetical like you’re doing with a potential Trump presidency. Queer people, muslims, and minorities are dying because of Biden. That’s not even addressing how Biden has done nothing to secure voting rights in the U.S.

              You people keep using minorities to avoid criticism, but you aren’t even listening to them right now when they vote uncommitted in Michigan.

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                8 months ago

                And people will be dying regardless of whether Biden stays in office or Trump takes over. It is an absolute fact that Trump will be immeasurably worse than Biden if he wins, and refusing to vote for Biden to keep him out of office because you’re too proud to vote strategically is absolutely a privileged stance to take.

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      8 months ago

      Anyone who defends the madness of pledging support to Biden while he commits Genocide actively endorses Genocide.

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        Neither Biden nor Trump will do anything about making Israel stop in Palestine, and Biden will be better than Trump overall as president. Refusing to vote for him is a privileged position which essentially throws gays, trans, Muslims, minorities, and the entire American democracy under the bus to satisfy your pride. It’s time to grow up.

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          8 months ago

          Biden will do something when he starts feeling the heat of losing enough votes.

          You can try to downplay and ignore the issue. Tell the kids that they “need to support Genocide like real grown ups”. But that’s not going to work.

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            Acting like a grown-up means voting strategically, especially when the other option is a fascist. Staying home to pout, or voting third party which amounts to the same thing, is an infantile position which reeks of “I got mine, fuck everyone else” privilege.

            You might weather a second Trump term okay due to your privilege. Plenty of folks won’t be so lucky, and if you refuse to vote for Biden in November, you’re just as guilty as the MAGA conservatives who voted for Trump if he wins.