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  • @[email protected]
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    11 months ago

    Can we just invest in public transit while taxing the fuck out of personal vehicles as well as cease subsiding oil, ffs?

    • @vagrantprodigy
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      -311 months ago

      That wouldn’t work in the vast majority of the US, which is very spread out.

      • @[email protected]
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        411 months ago

        It would certainly work for the places where the vast majority of people live, ie. Metros

        • @vagrantprodigy
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          511 months ago

          Great, but punishing everyone who doesn’t live in a metro by taxing personal vehicles out of existence would be assinine.

          • @[email protected]
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            -111 months ago

            As far as I read it, they are arguing to reduce fossil fuel vehicles, not vehicles entirely.

            • @vagrantprodigy
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              711 months ago

              The quote was “tax the fuck out of personal vehicles”. It doesn’t say non-electric personal vehicles.

            • @[email protected]
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              011 months ago

              Original commenter here:

              We need the vast majority of personal vehicles to be phased out, please.

              Obviously, electric vehicles are a stop-gap, but they’re also part of the problem.

        • @vagrantprodigy
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          611 months ago

          Public transit isn’t feasible is many rural areas. I know you don’t like it, but that’s reality. Sending a bus 20 miles down a road in the hopes that one of 4 people on it want to ride on the bus just doesn’t make sense.

          • @[email protected]
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            311 months ago

            Sending a bus 20 miles down a road in the hopes that one of 4 people on it want to ride on the bus just doesn’t make sense.

            Super true. I am disappointed bus systems have not started an on-demand system. Uber/Lyft showed what an app could do for transportation. Add physical call buttons at stops, or something, for those without mobile phones.

            I would ride the bus more if it went where I need to go.

            • @vagrantprodigy
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              311 months ago

              What kind of public transit that exists in reality can cover that situation? The answer is none. We can wish and hope for all kinds of things, but for the moment, reality exists.

                • @vagrantprodigy
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                  211 months ago

                  It sounds like you also have no vision, since you can’t come up with any solution to that situation.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    11 months ago

                    Okay. How about:

                    • High speed rail between major metros.
                    • Trams / light rail from major metros to nearby suburbia / rural towns.
                    • Suburbia / rural towns also implement those same trams / light rail.

                    •• Walkable cities / towns, with emphasis on bus / bike / light rail transit, slowing traffic.
                    •• High density living with mixed zoning to minimize sprawl.
                    •• Use of large tracts of land as parks and other third spaces.

                    I’m sure there’s more, but that’s off the top of my head.

                    Edit: oh, and instead of following up with “tHis WoN’t wORk”, please offer solutions. That generally goes over better than just complaining.

    • @[email protected]
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      -3311 months ago

      How about fuck off and spend your own money on shitty transit instead of wasting taxpayer money on it while restricting freedom?