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Every time they get education, they keep moving to the left! 😭😭😭
Is like… “Man falsely get arrested, becomes a rAdICaL anarchist”
hmm… wonder why… 🤔
Because somehow education includes gender and social studies.
Imagine if they got educated in something useful instead. We need better batteries, so you’d think people would want to educate themselves about the research of batteries? Or literally any other STEM-field that might bring something useful and practical out of it.
We don’t need better batteries. We need a radical reform of our approach to public transportation, but your daddy Elon sabotaged railways with his Hyperloop vaporware and remote working with his yuppie-like 80-hours-a-week-in-the-office policy.
Is that some reference to my nick? I had this nick since before Tesla Motors existed, because i like scientists. If you can surgically remove yourself from your own ass you might understand which scientist it refers to.
Who said I have anything against public transportation? I’m from Sweden. We have it covered for now, but we need serious investment in our infrastructure, especially for maintaining our railways.
I don’t care for Musk in the slightest, he has shown that he is a tool of the highest caliber. I just know that when the waters start to rise, i’d rather have another welder, engineer, plumber rather than an English major or gender consultant.
🤓 I’m a real man and I love science and real men think about gender all the time. It’s scientifically proven that people are only worth what you can do for me. 🤓
Nice projection there. I hope you losers enjoy Trump, cause you deserve the stupidity of him.
All those categories aren’t going to help people communicate properly, better or deal with the glass ceiling in companies, all things that contribute to well-being and happiness. I’m a technical translator specialized in automotive texts. So, I’m bridging the gap between STEM and the humanities, you’re one of those tools who doesn’t see any value in the humanities.
Found the uneducated!
Hardly. I’m just unable to sympathize with the people who complain about “luxury-issues” just because they take our current infrastructure for granted.
Understanding peoples behaviors makes for better team cooperation. Humans are social creatures, our strength is not individual inteligence but the collective intelligence.
Then you have psychology or psychiatry and their various sub-specializations.
Psychology would be great to understand individual behaviors.
Yes? I’m not sure i understand your point.
I’m refering to the endless number of people, articles and videos saying that college educated people cant even get an interview for a job, let alone a steady employment due to their CHOICE of education. My first and very reasonable question barely gets answered is: “Well, what did they study?”
Turns out, mostly un-employable things like archeology, English/french literature, gender studies, communicator etc.
That being said, i certainly don’t feel that the more easily employable degrees necessarily bring any value to their communities. I dont know about the US, but in Sweden the most popular degree for youths today are economist. Simply because that’s the only way they feel that they will be able to earn enough money to not work anymore. Whilst i empathize with them, it doesn’t really bode well for the future if the educated people overwhelmingly work to enrich themselves.
Wow your message was delivered poorly, but there is a core concept hidden within it that I do agree with. Schools need to focus more on critical thinking skills rather than any particular topic. Because those can be applied to anything.
Ever since standardized testing rolled around school has become more about teaching kids to memorize something and to not try if they don’t know and just move on rather than allowing them to get something wrong but engage in critical thinking.
Instead of memorizing random formulas in math class that you may or may not use in your daily life especially now that it’s literally guaranteed that there’s 15 calculators within 5 ft of you at all times including one in your pocket. It would be more useful to teach specific types of math that encourage critical thinking like say ROI calculations, something that literally everyone can and should be using in their daily lives for even just basic shopping but virtually nobody knows what that even means.
That’s what you got out of his comment? It seemed to be that he was promoting a job training curriculum rather than education.
No that’s what I turned it into, the core part that I agreed with was that how we educate needs to change. I then took that and moved it to my concept on critical thinking skills being the most important thing
votes for the Republican anyways
if you need a school you’ve already lost (Elon Musk)
Yet he’s the richest man on Earth.
He’a the best argument against capitalism as a meritocratic system.
if you need a school you’ve already lost (Elon Musk)
I wonder how he got them there bachelor degrees? Hmm?!
I don’t know much about his lore but I wouldn’t be surprised if he spun his to portray himself as a gifted talent stifled by the school system
Weird do filters not catch quotes?
An educated citizenry is required for a well functioning democracy that benefits that citizenry. That is not in the interest of republican politicians and their benefactors.
*sounds of Lenin*
Let’s not act as if Republicans are the only ones doing this mate.
Did Democrats start pushing to defund public schools and offer “vouchers”? I must have missed that.
So they did everything they could to improve education whenever they were in power?
Do you even know who is on your local school board?
Around 40% of dems support this openly. The rest implicitly.
“both sides are bad”-ism is what made trump win the election
No, Democrats being ineffectual corporate stooges for 50 years is what gave Trump the opportunity to win.
It costs money, has long term effects, and helps people so that’s a no go.
It’s not even that. It makes people less blindly compliant to authority, and that’s absolutely unacceptable to Republicans.
“We can’t educate Americans if we want to keep winning elections”
The continuation of the piss poor US income distribution and 3rd World working conditions.
It’s the government’s job to educate the masses! But not like that! And not with my money!
Fash already control nearly every aspect of the indoctrination system: nationalism, capitalism, racism, patriarchy, etc.
Yes, higher education should be free, but this kind of logic is a trap, as it normalizes nationalistic logic which only helps the worst of the extreme-right. Besides even countries that have free higher education need to hire qualified immigrants because not everyone wants or has the natural inclination to do all the jobs that are required for the local specialization hub.
We can’t hire Americans **because they expect to be paid properly
Also the beauty of H1B visa people is that because they have to leave the country (or find another job) in 30 days in the even that they get fired, it means they are perfect for assholes like that billionaire. “Agree to do this or go back to that shit hole”
To play devil’s advocate, that’s not what they’re saying.
They’re saying that other countries education systems are roughly equivalent to the US, and in that scenario, they’d rather still be able to use their stock piled capital to pay for the best of the best from other countries to immigrate to the US.
Although I agree with the sentiment of this meme it has one thing wrong.
Americans aren’t interested in getting educated. At least not in the subjects that are relevant.
Americans prefer going to school for fun and majoring in stuff like business administration and communications, or the plethora of other majors that are fully saturated with people.
STEM majors and jobs scare most Americans away and this is a problem. There are also a ton of high paying labor jobs in America but the majority of Americans want nothing to do with labor and would rather have an office job.
Look I am not saying billionaires are right, because they aren’t. Fuck them. However youngsters today growing up need to be more involved in understanding how the labor market works and become educated in the skills that actually matter. It isn’t so much a lack of education. It’s there, it’s just that most people aren’t interested in being educated in the right skills.
It’s not about being “educated” in “STEM”. That’s just a sterile euphemism for destroying any form of education that fosters revolt against a lifetime of serving capital.
I got a computer science degree because I got into computers as a kid and I was good with them. When I apply for a job it feels like like I’m competing with half the planet. It took 2 years to get the current job I have at an MSP and I’ve been applying for new jobs for a year now. I can count the times I’ve been contacted by recruiters over the past year on one hand. There’s plenty more in my boat. If we’d known we probably would have had a different major.
I did labor before landing a job with an MSP by the way. I’m in my early 30s with back, neck, and hand problems now and pain that radiates into my hips and legs. You don’t get out of labor jobs unscathed.
Computer science is a massive world. It’s true that even the computer world is saturated. All of India is competing with you. But keep in mind those are commodity roles that are easy to outsource and fill. There are plenty of roles like cyber security and many others that they can’t or won’t outsource. You may just be in the wrong sector.
As for labor jobs I get it. They suck. But the world needs laborers and LOTS of them pay very very well.
So many republicans complain immigrants are stealing our jobs except these are all labor jobs that Americans don’t want, and now they want to kick them out of the country so no one is doing those jobs at all.
I really don’t know what else to tell people. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. People are quick to blame billionaires and while they are right to do so they are only just one of the many variables at play.
The biggest variable at play is that Americans aren’t aligning to the job market.
I agree with the general sentiment that STEM scares a lot of Americans.
When I would tell other young women I was an engineering major, I would often hear a similar refrain - “Oh, I could never do that!” And it drove me insane! I am not magically gifted at mental math, I can’t do differential equations in my head. And most engineers I know, whether American or foreign, can’t do those things either.
A lot of engineering isn’t about being freakishly gifted like Elon Musk pretends. It takes gradual development of skills toward an end goal. First, you have to nail down the tools for the work (math, physics, chemistry), then you get to apply those tools to real-world problems. Engineering is problem solving, making mistakes, and being curious enough to keep going.
In short, engineering is about the long game. And didn’t become rewarding until around year 3 for me. I took some other classes in subjects to entertain myself and fill my schedule. In the disciplines of archeology, art history, and archetecture. And I called them my sanity classes. They were immediately satisfying, and made me feel like I was learning and not struggling or making those mistakes I made in engineering classes. I think most students enjoy the satisfaction of classes like that. The learning seems more instantaneous and less like a step on a ladder.
Sorry for the diatribe. In short, if you happen to read this as a young person and have the opportunity to study engineering - do it. Try not to go into debt for it, but don’t feel excluded because you aren’t the best at long division.
As for Musk, I’ve spoken with a few engineers who worked at his various companies. Everyone has left for other companies because he is a nightmare to work for. Yes, there are gifted engineers from other countries, but Musk wants employees that are tied to him and will work the slavish hours to earn a better life for the next generation of their families. A lot of American engineers are not willing to ignore their families like Musk himself clearly does. There are plenty of other space companies that pay well and aren’t run by sociopaths.
