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      If it weren’t for Hillary and the DNC being corrupt, Bernie would have destroyed trump in 2016. I know so many people where I was living in middle America that flipped from Bernie to Trump.

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        I wasn’t in middle America, but experienced the same thing. I still don’t understand it. Is it just populism? If so, not good. I definitely shed friends in 2016.

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          It’s because Trump advocates for change. Now it’s not good change but he’s definitely not a fan of the status quo, which gets you votes when the other guy is a Democrat centrist beholden to status quo-loving corporate donors.

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            I would argue that the change he advocates for is in the direction of the worst parts of status quo. The unbridled capitalistic endeavors of the rich, specifically. Very different than Bernie Sanders.

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              That’s true, but voters who are uneducated or simply don’t care about politics will see what he’s selling and think he’s at least better than the DNC’s “why would you want change? Everything is fine” nonsense.

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          Populism boosted by new media (internet) vs. lobbyism striving to maintain status quo.

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        Alright but Hillary Clinton beat Bernie Sanders in the Primary Elections, so the “corruption” you’re referring to is like 30 Million People.

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          Yes, because of the “super” delegates which was like 20 people who can automatically outvote the other hundreds of delegates.

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            They are talking about popular vote, not how delegates voted. And they voted according to popular vote. Every time.
            I don’t know what will happen if the people will vote differently than delegates would like to, but so far it never happened

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              People voted for her, and Biden, because they thought they could win the general, because they were “popular” during the primaries. Not to mention the whole media misrepresented his policies, attitudes, supporters, etc. It’s very easy to convince people to vote against their interest with the proper tricks (which Trump as our current President-elect proves).

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                If you add Hilary votes in the 2016 primaries and Biden in 2020, you will get less than 30 millions. 10% of population, 20% of voters. Not even quarter.

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    Mass movements can do lots of things, but we can’t even get a majority of people to vote…

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      We can get a majority of those that do vote to vote for Trump so I am not that hopeful.

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      As it turns out, you only need like around 5% of the population to start a revolution (if even that amount). Revolutions have been started with even fractions of a percent.

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      Because people don’t feel represented in the current FPTP voting-system, which to be fair, was designed by wealthy romans to benefit wealthy romans.

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    Word is, when Bernie first saw the news of the murder, he said, “Fuck yes.”

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      What’s easier, motivating hundreds of thousands of people to get out and protest, or letting a few moderately motivated people take direct action?

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        Not protest. Y’all need at least a general strike to have a shot at doing something. That or found/get behind a third party and kill the DNC.

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    I wish we would see a movement like this in Canada when it comes to grocery giants like Loblaws

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    But when I say the same solution I get banned from communities for being a “coward” and “copaganda.”

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      I think if Bernie suggested murdering all the CEOs he’d get banned from his communities, though.