There is no evidence this is an official donation fund
I’m pretty sure the lawyer said he wasn’t interested in accepting donations. I’d be wary of scams. Just be careful.
Just FYI give send go is a Christian fund raising site that supports January 6th rioters, and it sounds like they are going to use the donation money for other cases. I disputed the charge on my card and got it refunded after I learned that
The thing holding back these donation funds is verification that they’re actually for Mangione’s defense. “The December 4th Legal Committee” could just be a scam.
Yeah, I’m holding off on donations until his public defender gives an official place to donate.
He 100% needs a better lawyer…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Jav3T2K00
The one he has now is probably just the only lawyer in Altoona.
He seems like a pretty good lawyer to me. A lot of non-answers. No speculation or sensationalism. He’s controlling the conversation rather than letting the reporters derail it. Any particular reason you think he’s bad?
Well, first off the murder charges are NY and this guy’s has only practiced in PA, so it’s a safe assumption he hasn’t passed the NY bar…
There’s other reasons, but the fact that this guy literally can only fight the extradition and gun charges.
I feel like it’s a safe bet that Luigi will need another lawyer
Yeah for sure they’ll bring on another lawyer that’s accredited in New York once needed, but that doesn’t mean this lawyer is a bad one.
With the money and resources the government is throwing at this, the five best Lawyers in Altoona wouldn’t be good enough.
Altoona’s metro area is 1/20th of Philly, and an even tinier percentage of Pittsburgh.
This guy is literally just a small town local lawyer.
The lawyers at his firm are: himself
He isn’t a defense attorney, he does worker comp and divorces too.
I’m not saying he’s terrible, it’s like grabbing the most middle of the road highschool basketball player and throwing him in a NBA Dunk contest and asking why people are saying he won’t perform well.
They’re not saying he’s a bad HS player, they’re saying he is completely out of his league.
Wow some of those reporters are in for blood.
Also: Saul Goodman vibes.
Saul Goodman vibes.
Exactly
I’ve never heard of “GiveSendGo”, and who is
d4legalcomm@gmail.com(the email address listed on the GiveSendGo page)? The fact that it’s some random Gmail is kinda sketchy. Are we sure this is legit?Wikipedia explains who they are very well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GiveSendGo
GiveSendGo is a Christian crowdfunding website.[5] GiveSendGo has attracted controversy for allowing far-right extremists to fundraise, including neo-Nazis, white supremacists and hate groups.[15]
They have also had multiple security breaches.
PayPal suspended payments to GiveSendGo because it was raising funds for people who had participated in the 2021 United States Capitol attack
oh… oh no.
It’s probably not legit, which is why I’m holding off until his public defender gives official information about any potential donations.
If it’s probably not legit, why did you post it?
As per this reddit post, just FYI:
His full name is registered with the state of PA as: LUIGI MANGIONE.
Inmate Number QQ7787.
Currently at SCI Huntingdon (yes HUNTINGDON)
Address for mail: LUIGI MANGIONE, QQ7787, SCI Huntingdon, PO Box 33028, St Petersburg, FL, 33733
All mail is scanned by a third-party and then a copy is provided to them, so don’t even think about sending something “extra”.
To send money (everyone needs money in jail, even $10 goes a long way) you have to go through JPay. And again, need to use his name, LUIGI MANGIONE, and inmate number QQ7787
DOB is 05/06/1998
If anyone that’s done time recently in PA sees something is missing in this info, please leave a comment.
It is really weird that it’s a florida address for a PA prison.
why does he need a defense fund? He’s going to be defended either way.
if they convict him, which they probably will based on DNA and overwhelming evidence, and send him to jail. would he need to pay his lawyers back for their time?
Did he give a sperm sample or something at the crime seen? What DNA?
And public defenders though they are as skilled as any attorney are very much overworked in many places. Private counsel can offer more attention to the details of a case and spend time researching potentially novel theories to defend their client.
They can sample DNA now if you’ve simply been in the area. They can sample it off the backpack he discarded in the park. They can sample it off the shell casings. They have his movement across many cameras.
Remember, they only have to prove “beyond a reasonable doubt”.
I think lemmy users need to get their head out of their asses with the “we really don’t know if he did it” thing. As much as anyone might think the crime was justified, the evidence is pretty solid. And with such an emotional newsworthy case, they’re not going to bring it to trial unless the evidence is beyond reproach.
What do you think DNA is? The thing outside a criminals’s gloves? IRL isn’t CSI Miami. Go swap a NYC sidewalk and see what you get. That’d be a needle in a haystack.
Remember, they only have to prove “beyond a reasonable doubt”.
This is like saying remember marathon runners only need to run 26.2 miles.
It’s not having our “head [in our] asses” it’s a decent respect for the freestanding system of laws. Social media vilianizing or martyrizing people alleged of cromes isn’t beneficial for true justice.
Lock him up and throw away the key. And, f yo downvotes.
Even if it is the right guy, nah.
This is explicitly what the 2A is meant for, to deal with tyranny.
Tyranny?
tyranny ˈtɪr(ə)ni
noun
- cruel and oppressive government or rule.
- a state under cruel and oppressive government.
- cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control.
- (especially in ancient Greece) rule by one who has absolute power without legal right.
You must know health insurance has a contract with pages of what is covered what is not. But cool, jump on the popular bandwagon for upvotes.
The native americans had lots of contracts and agreements with the U.S. government. It didn’t mean shit, and the government was still tyrannical.
A contract is meaningless when corporations can:
- bulldoze any citizen they like with legal teams
- force people to have go through arbitration
- delay and deny claims to demoralize claimants even if they have a valid claim
- and AIs that deny cases for the sake of it
They wield what is essentially unchecked and arbitrary power to the detriment of the people. It is cruel. It is oppressive. It fits the definition of tyranny easily.
Total nonsense.
I don’t think recalling 15 pages of legal jargon is on someone’s mind when they need emergency medical care. But hey, they totally deserved it for taking an ambulance instead of driving themselves to the nearest in-network hospital 90 minutes away /s
A contract you’re basically forced to accept? lol
Yeah, and King George III had all sorts of shit written down that people in governing roles agreed to. People under tyranny were pretty upset and tried diplomacy back then as well. Violence is what eventually solved it, and the people that went through that wanted to make sure violence was always an option, hence the 2nd amendment. Anyone, Republican or Democrat, that says otherwise is just wrong.
Why?
It’s called murder
Murder?
Bueller?
I have been called a bootlicker for saying I think he probably killed Thompson. This is what actual bootlicking looks like
And killing Thompson is the whole reason people elevate him. If Luigi Mangione is actually just some random dude getting his McD’s after working on his fan-fiction manifesto and printing out copycat fake IDs for lols, then the story isn’t really about Luigi.
Absolutely. He’s a fucking hero, and I don’t care what people think about that.
