• EleventhHour@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Not to defend “them”, but I really do believe that very little of this has anything to do with the fact that she’s a woman. It’s a red versus blue thing, democracy versus fascism. At this point, it doesn’t really matter who runs for president, wrt gender or even race. Trump has attacked her race far more than mentioning anything about her gender. Nonetheless, Trump just sees the dems as “the enemy“, and has convinced all of his cultists to view things in the same terms.

    Any other Republican of this current generation would probably attack her on her gender as much as her race, but for some reason, Trump only attacks things he doesn’t understand such as biraciality (biracialness? Biracitude?).

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    Obama had to be polite, intelligent, and well-spoke, or else he’d be considered too “hood” for the White House, Trump has had no such requirement.

    If Obama or Harris had shown up with their five kids from three different marriages, it would be the ultimate proof that the “Lessers are breeding like crazy!” and they would be condemned by the bigots on Right and the “I’m not racist, but…” on the Left|

    When Trump did it, he was just seen as a family man.

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    People pretending Kamala is competent is almost as funny as people pretending Trump is Christian.

    This is going to be Hilary all over again. Absolutely the same clueless “why won’t you vote for me?! I have such good referrals!!” energy.

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      Also the implication that a subset of Americans are sexist because they won’t vote for a woman who has expressed unwavering support in continuing a genocide.

      More 👏 female 👏 genocide 👏 perpetrators 👏

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        You do realize that if trump wins, there is a very real possibility he’ll nuke Gaza himself? Because I need to know you understand that. Kamala might not be as harsh on bibi as you’d like, but she’ll work towards a ceasefire. Trump has threatened to nuke foreign countries before but was stopped by his staff like his former chief of staff, john kelly, and his former secretary of defense mark milley (both of whom have recently come out and described trump as a fascist btw). And that staff won’t be around this time to stop him. He’s surrounding himself with sycophants who will blindly do his bidding.

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          ah yes great. we get to select plain or polite genocide. as vile as trump is nuking gaza seems like a mercy compared to the slow death from hunger or burning them alive which is being done with biden blessing and not a single statement from harris to even acknowledge this genocide.

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            Yes, it’s awful you only get two choices and neither will do enough about palenstine. But what about the other issues? Reproductive and LGTBQ rights? Surely Harris would be better on that front?

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              These people don’t actually care about rights. They have found a single issue to throw all of their weight behind and are blind to everything that doesn’t support their position 100%.

              I guarantee you there are large numbers of Palestinians who would not pass their ‘care about genocide’ purity test based solely on things like thinking that Harris will result in less death than Trump.

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                this is not a single issue. dnc has become as evil as trump. They don’t care about pregnant women getting shot by snipers and bombed in hospitals and you think they give a rat ass about women’s rights.

                lgbt, abortition are issues in 21st century because of their complicity. a vote for kamal is endorsing gencoide and continue this spiral of decline.

                have you seen the footage of what’s happening in gaza ? how offensive to suggest that they should vote for a candidate who is already been burning their family alive for a year. rot in hell with that mentality.

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                  Thanks for proving my point.

                  You don’t give a shit about queer people’s rights or about brown people getting deported by the millions.

                  Claiming democrats are just as bad as Trump on these issues is a disgusting lie at the expense of queer people.

                  No Democrat would do any of this. Harris certainly wouldn’t:

                  https://www.hrc.org/news/the-list-of-trumps-unprecedented-steps-for-the-lgbtq-community

                  Project 2025 would make that exponentially worse. It would be another genocide. Plus the genocide he’s made clear he’s going to do with brown people by deporting as many as he possibly can, which would literally require concentration camps.

                  You care about one single issue and you don’t even care if Palestinians agree with you on your ideas.

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    Most competent and qualified genocider #girlboss 💕. Her form of genocide is much more elegant than her opponent’s.

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      Clearly, you’d prefer someone who would attack his own nation’s people. Because obviously, that’s preferable. /s

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        Attacking friendlies is bad, except when Israel does it?

        reported Israeli military attacks against US military and UN peacekeepers:

        October 11, 2024: Israeli military fired on UN peacekeepers in southern Lebanon, injuring two Sri Lankan soldiers and one Indonesian soldier. The Israeli military acknowledged responsibility for the incident.
        October 10, 2024: Israeli military fired on UN peacekeepers in southern Lebanon, injuring two members of the peacekeeping force. The UNIFIL (United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon) reported that Israeli tanks had deliberately fired at and disabled monitoring cameras prior to the attack.
        October 11, 2024: Israeli military struck a UN peacekeeper position in southern Lebanon, wounding two peacekeepers. The UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres condemned the attack, calling it a “grave violation of international humanitarian law.”
        October 13, 2024: Israeli tanks forced entry into a UNIFIL position in southern Lebanon, according to the UN. The UNIFIL reported that Israeli forces had destroyed the position’s main gate and forcibly entered the position.
        October 14, 2024: Israeli military attacked a Christian town in northern Lebanon, killing at least 21 people, including civilians and UN peacekeepers. The UN Secretary-General condemned the attack, calling it a “grave violation of international humanitarian law.”
        
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      Cool so I assume you’re voting for Harris then? She obviously is the candidate who would cause less harm to the people of Gaza and Palestinians in general.

      So it’d be pretty dumb to say something like that and then not try to do what you can as an individual to help (by voting for Harris).

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        You assume correctly! Like you, I am simp-pathetic to upholding the genocidal status quo.

        It’d be pretty dumb not to blame anyone except those that nominated Harris, the best and only possible candidate to beat Trump.

        It would be outright dimwitted to believe any other course of action exists besides voting to show one’s undying loyalty to career politicians who uphold the beautiful and completely non-toxic American status quo.

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          Feel free to take a break from the endless sarcasm and let us know what course of action you think people should be taking and what would get them to take it.

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            Circling back to the content of this post, which supposes that Harris has no faults, I suggest and support critical thinking.

            This meme comes from a narrow frame of mind that imagines great differences between foreign policy (where none actually exist) between “sides” and mindlessly upholds a corrupt two party doctrine.

            The idea that democrats are entitled to certain votes emboldened Biden to proclaim African Americans aren’t “black”.

            Take a break from mindlessly accepting a toxic status quo. Stop showing establishment Dems that they are entitled to votes no matter how far right they are on policy.

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              This is what I asked you:

              Feel free to take a break from the endless sarcasm and let us know what course of action you think people should be taking and what would get them to take it.

              You have answered neither of those things. You just told me how you expected people to think. That was not the question. You brought up actions earlier, not thoughts.

              You don’t actually have any actions for people to take, do you?

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                You demand hand holding and spoon feeding.

                You would never be a useful ally, but I’m sure you will serve the status quo establishment well.

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                  You are correct. Contrarianism does not require allies.

                  Allies are needed for people who have plans of action, something you lack.

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              Obviously people are thinking a lot harder than you. Why do you think you are the first person to realize that the democratic left is actually the rest of the world’s far right? Everyone figured that out when they were fucking twelve, so stop believing you are some enlightened philosophical or some shit.

              While we here, everyone else has also already realized that third party votes accomplish nothing in the current state of politics. Throw your vote wherever you want, but no party besides rep and dem is getting an electoral so thanks for wasting it. Unless we are all willing to get up, and force the hand of change, that is the reality we all have to live in. Well maybe if you caught up with everyone else you would know that.

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                No one should argue for change unless it’s popular to do so.

                Wow, so this has been the basis of human progress so far?

                Anyone who participates in society would be a hypocrite to make such criticisms right?

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    Less how sexist ð country as a whole is and more how sexist ð battleground states are.

    If it was even just FPTP popular vote, Hariss would be projected for a landslide right now.