• Tarogar@feddit.org
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      17 days ago

      Come on… Shitty safety measures have never, ever, in the history of mankind led to catastrophic events with a lasting fallout. -some government that collapsed

      After all after some point safety is just pure waste of money. -some dead CEO

      It doesn’t take enshittification for something real bad to happen. All it takes is time. Add the mentioned enshittification and corner cutting and we know for sure what will happen…

      Or how the saying in EvE online goes : it’s not a question on if your ship gets blown up but a question of when it gets blown up.

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    These renewables, however, are intermittent sources of power, while data centers need a steady supply to run all the time. The tech companies are currently reliant on the grid whenever the wind isn’t blowing or sun isn’t shining.

    Gee, if only if they could have, say, containers of substances that could hold an electrical charge: perhaps—if you will—a “battery” of such containers.

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      I get your point, but have you looked into the power demands of data centers? They already have room filling batteries for power outages, but those are just enough to keep the lights on while the diesel generators start.

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        There are immense capacity utility scale batteries available now from dozens of vendors. They would be roughly 100x easier to build than a nuclear power plant, even with a solar farm attached.

        The most recent nuclear power plant built in the US was the 2 new units at the Vogtle plant in Georgia. They took 11 years and 34 billion dollars to build to output a roughly 2.4 gw of steady power.

        A 1gw solar + battery plant was built in Nevada that cost 1.9 billion. They secured financing in 2022, and finished building it in 2024.

        So we can get a solar array built to do the above with battery storage for 4 billion, in 2-4 years. For the same cost as that added 2.4GW nuclear, we could build 18GW of solar with 12.6gwh of storage.

        So nuclear will do 2.4GW of peak, with 2.4gwh of “storage” available 24/7.

        I have no doubt that the above 18GWh of solar could be traded in for more battery, to a more sane ratio that could compete with that “storage” while also providing 4-5x of total power. Based on what I can find, the batteries were about 1/2 the cost, so if we knock the solar generation to 9GW, we can increase battery to 25.2GWh. Now you still have huge power generation, a huge power storage that you can use all at once or over a long period, and it matches the “storage” that that nuclear plant offers for 12hrs, I.e the time when the sun is down.

        It’s honestly baffling why these companies are trying to spin up nuclear plants instead of pushing ahead with more grid renewables.

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    With how they treat the things they are supposedly good at, I can only imagine how catastrophic this could be. I don’t think you’d want the people working at a nuclear power plant to be so overwhelmed with work they need to piss in bottles.

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    Was the byline written by AI?

    This comment was also brought to you by the artificial intelligence boom, and has as much to do with it.

    You can still purchase this comment as an NFT.

    I’m working with a supplier to create a limited edition Pog, with this comment printed on it.

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    So long as they keep international regulations in place - or, rather, bolster them - it might work.