• HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    In favor of what? I still have to use control panel because some things are seemingly unreachable by the “settings” menus.

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      That’s M$ intention, to hide some settings from users and lose control of Windows.

  • 11111one11111@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    What a fucking piece of shit company. What’s the eta to fully learn Linux, and learn how to set up a dual boot os where Linus is daily driver but a local windows account is on its own drive for emergencies and gaming.

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      If you have a USB stick handy, you could probably be dual booting into Linux Mint within an hour.

      No need to fully learn Linux before moving to that. You can do your research using Firefox on your Linux desktop. And by “research” I mean googling/DDGing things as you need to know how to do them. It starts to stick.

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    4 months ago

    Windows “god mode”: https://www.howtogeek.com/402458/enable-god-mode-in-windows-10/

    What is god mode?

    it’s simply a special folder you can enable that exposes most of Windows’ admin, management, settings, and Control Panel tools in a single, easy-to-scroll-through interface

    It’s very easy to set this up, and it also works in Windows 11. Even if Microsoft removes access to the normal Control Panel, I seriously doubt this will be taken out.

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      4 months ago

      I hate to be that guy, but why don’t you just move over to Linux already? Games work. It’s incredibly easy now. A nine year old could install and use xubuntu.

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        I am past the point of having “a” computer with “an” operating system… the concept of “moving” to another OS is basically irrelevant… I use different environments for different purposes and there’s no good reason to leave potential functional value unused for the sake of ideological convictions or fanboyism or whatever. My problems now revolve around having a useful cross-platform account that has access to my files on any/all of my platforms/VMs. I do lean heavily on open source software, I prefer it to proprietary.

        More basically, an OS is not a food that you might like or dislike, it is a tool that you use when it is suited to the task. Discriminating against tools doesn’t make sense, it only limits your capabilities.

        Please read this older comment of mine, it explains my point of view on this more… and if you want to do something really interesting then try to implement Qubes and actually use it for awhile.

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          More basically, an OS is not a food that you might like or dislike, it is a tool that you use when it is suited to the task. Discriminating against tools doesn’t make sense, it only limits your capabilities.

          Only if you want capabilities that you can only achieve with the tool you dislike. I’ve had plenty of shitty screwdrivers, and it was totally reasonable not to like them. And I’m not going to deal with all the safety risks of a table saw when I really only need a hacksaw.

          That’s all great for you to be platform agnostic. There’s literally zero things I want to do that I can’t do with Linux, and as someone who does get paid to use, deploy, and support Windows, the only things I find easier with Windows are goals that exist only because MS created them (such as AD integration).

          Nah, you do you, but I’m quite comfortable discriminating against Windows, and with defending the fact that I do so. I’ll continue using it only when paid for that purpose, and will absolutely not voluntarily put myself in a position where I need to rely on the mess that is windows or the surveillance company that is Microsoft for anything that is important to me personally.

          I am past the point of having “a” computer with “an” operating system… the concept of “moving” to another OS is basically irrelevant…

          And man the entire tone of your post is early 2000’s “I don’t even own a TV” level.

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    I have friends who work in IT and would probably slam their head against the wall if they had to deal with Control Panel being removed.

    Are Microsoft deliberately trying to make the fabled Year of the Linux Desktop finally become a reality? Because I feel like we’re two or three more dumbfuck business moves away from this…

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    It’d be fine if 1) everything from Control Panel is implemented and properly working and 2) everything stays consistent (because otherwise, as other folks have mentioned, at one point written tutorials even with screenshots quickly become obsolete). I don’t see this happening any time soon.

    Maybe instead of that they can start encouraging people to use the command line, although even fewer settings are reachable though there.

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      Their settings pages are the worst; full of white space, finding what they considered “advanced” settings is usually a pain in the ass, and everything is dumbed down to a mind-numbing extent.

      I’ve hated Settings pages with a passion since they were introduced, and always typed the full .msc I was looking for.

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        I also dislike the design layout. Eg. I much prefer the control panel version of Disk Management than the settings purely from an aesthetics stand point. Each disk and their partitions are just easier to see and differentiate from others.

    • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      the control panel they’re taking away is largely just antiquated and not used anymore in favour of settings app anyway

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        4 months ago

        Users complain about changes being made and then they complain that change doesn’t happen enough.

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    RIP. It’s been coming for a while, and Control Panel will likely be on hospice for a few more years, but it will be a sad day when control panel is gone.

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          Great, now I’ll have to Google Bing for a four-line command when before I could just dig through a few menus.

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                Actually PowerShelll is basically a wrapper for .NET classes… and it doesn’t really emulate Bash in any functional way.

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                  The little time I have spent on powershell, I found it to be very slow. The input is also very verbose. I’m sure someone will say it allows one to be specific but I can be equally specific in bash as well. It’s like the Java Enterprise of scripting language.

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      Hate to break it to you but Linux doesn’t have the Windows Control Panel either. :P

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    If I hadn’t already migrated to Linux after the insider crapshow, this probably would have forced me off.

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        I left Windows because of the Settings nonsense.

        12 years later you rubes are still getting fucked by this garbage. That’s why I’m here. 😂

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    I am curious where I’ll find the touch screen configuration utility when they do.

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      Because you touch y… wait no. That doesn’t work here.

      Let me channel my inner Microsoft and think of the most asinine…

      OK, yeah, you’ll have to touch and hold the right hand side of the screen for three seconds, then the left and the right for a further three, let go of the right and keep touching the left for three more, let go and then the settings will pop up. I call it “Son of sticky keys.”

      There will be no other way to get to those settings.

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        Flight simmers the world round will revolt if that dialog isn’t easy to get to or converted to modern format.

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    What is the benefit? The name? Call control panel “Settings” and be done with it.

    You could phase it in. “Control Panel Settings”, then “CP Settings”, then just “Settings” and Bob’s your mother’s brother!

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    So… why are people upset about this? I’d say it’s about damn time. Having two settings apps is pretty ridiculous and it’s honestly crazy it’s taken them this long to ditch the control panel. I still remember people making fun of Microsoft’s inability to drop control panel in the Windows 10 era. Is there anything special about the control panel or uniquely terrible about the settings app that would warrant this kind of negative reaction? Is it because of the settings that aren’t available in settings? If they’re preparing to drop control panel that probably means they’re going to add whatever settings are still stranded on it to the new settings app, unless there’s evidence that they won’t do that.

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      The problem is that the settings app has consistently been a dumbed down, feature-sparse version of what was in the control panel for the bits it has replaced. Tweaks that experienced users have relied on for decades are simply missing in the settings app, forcing them to go back to the control panel

      If Microsoft actually re-implemented all the knobs and dials in control panel then I wouldn’t be so irritated, but we’ve been shown for the last several years that they only bother migrating the most commonly used settings.

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        I bet within a decade they pivot to barely any settings at all, claiming the released experience is the only experience you’ll ever need.