I left Reddit to get away from all the racist wankers and their “legitimate concerns”, and now they seem to be turning up here. Great.
Lemmy is small enough that blocking them individually is an effective strategy.
I agree but I rather worry that they’ll take over here as well because more people read this and are like „wtf I’m out“. That’s what happened with me on Reddit too. I was still lurking before the blackout but it was often already kinda bad.
However now if I look at Reddit it’s no different than Facebook or instagram because I assume many mods left, and I mean those who actually cared about their community vs being in power. I think it’s bad if these „opinions“ are here, even though they get downvoted to oblivion. They will just poison the discourse.
And don’t get me wrong, plurality of opinion is very important. But Nazi bots do not play by the rules, they do not contribute to said plurality, they want to destroy it and take over any space where people exchange opinions.
I agree just blocking people isn’t a good strategy long-term. Lemmy at least needs support for collaborative block lists.
I still remember what my grandfather who fought in WW2 told me: “You don’t speak to nazis. You shoot nazis.”
Times have changed, so I would be entirely happy with all the Nazis deported to Rwanda.
I think this is what happens when mainstream political parties legitimise this kind of anti-immigrant rhetoric.
Everyone is pointing at social media, what about Sunak/Braverman/Patel? Not to mention the odious Farage.
I lay a lot of the blame at their feet.
And also - I realise it makes no sense (the perpetrator is British born!) but as has so often been said: You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. So yeah, here we are. Madness.
Bigots never miss an opportunity
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If you have any questions or comments about me, you can make a post to LW Support lemmy community.This is a touchy situation. In England, like in France, there’s been increasing cases of acts of armed aggression, violence and terrorism from extremist Islamist groups. There is a lot of Islamic radicalization happening in Muslim communities.
It’s a real concern for public safety and people have grown tired of living in fear of the next attack.
There were neighborhoods in cities in both of these countries that if you’re a non Muslim or if you don’t follow the strict rules like women wearing headscarves, you get harassed and attacked.
This anger wasn’t born just out of thin air or only racism.
However, the root cause for this radicalization comes from two things: the frustration from Muslims facing discrimination in the UK and France and colonialism and conflicts in Muslim countries where the UK and France are involved. When Muslims get treated differently at school, face racism, can’t find jobs are their needs are not being met, you get frustration and anger and it gets exploited by bad influences.
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I think people misunderstood what I said here. What in saying is that discrimination and racism and colonialism has led to injustices towards Muslims. In turn, some of them have been exploited and turned into radical Islamists and there’s been increasing numbers in some areas. Some also turned to a life of crime.
But that’s just what happened when any group of people are faced with this kind of discrimination and violence. It isn’t just a Muslim thing.
I don’t hate people for being Muslims. I do hate all religions though.
There were neighborhoods in cities in both of these countries that if you’re a non Muslim or if you don’t follow the strict rules like women wearing headscarves, you get harassed and attacked.
No there isn’t. This is just daily mail nonsense.
Source: I’m visibly gay and live in one of these famous “no go areas”
There were neighborhoods in cities in both of these countries that if you’re a non Muslim or if you don’t follow the strict rules like women wearing headscarves, you get harassed and attacked.
Name the cities and neighborhoods or you’re lying. It’s possible someone mislead you, but if you repeat it without verification you’re still lying.
This is like the thing conservatives said about “cities burning to the ground” because of BLM. Whenever you looked into it, it was some rando not associated with any group. Or possibly a right-wing agitator.
Stop repeating the game of telephone. You can literally go to Saudi Arabia without wearing a headscarf. You think Paris is going to be stricter?
Don’t know specifically about the UK, but in France there are definitely no go areas in Paris, Marseille and Montpellier. You can look them up. Paris has the 19e arrondissement, Marseille has the 16e for example.
“Definitely”? Lol. You are just repeating 10 year old “Fox and Friends” nonsense. The 19th in Paris is just a working class neighborhood.
When’s the last time you actually went to France? Or spoken with someone who lives there?
Lol. Yeah man. No one ever goes to Paris.
My friend. I go to France every year. I usually land in Marseille to go visit my in laws.
Two years ago I took a wrong turn and ended up in a car jacking situation. My GPS told me to go through some apartment building parking at night. There were a couple of watchers who gave a signal to a group who had laid down grocery carts up make a barrage. I had to gun it to go around before they closed it. And when I reached the exit of the parking just on the other side, we got cut off by a black Mercedes that blocked the exit. I had to drive over a curb as the group was surrounding our car.
I fucking experienced it.
My in-laws tell me about how they’re scared to go out at night in their town in Valence.
Friends living near Marseille who worked there specifically told us not to visit without them as guides or else it would be too dangerous.
My co workers are practically all French expats from Paris who moved to Quebec in the past 5-10 years and they’ve told me themselves how much of a shit show it has become.
So you can believe what you want. But I’ve actually been there and know people from there and what I’m saying is from their accounts. Not from some news channel in the US.
Really? It’s the far right they’re worried about?
I know the far left also riots, but this time it’s the far right…
It’s funny how indigenous population who’s scared about their wellbeing is called “far-right”. Focus on stabbings, rapes and other pressing issues.
