• masquenox@lemmy.world
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    Remember - they didn’t throw Martin Skhreli into rich-guy’s prison because he caused thousands of people to die by raising the prices on lifesaving medicines out of reach of poor folk… no, no, no, they threw him into rich guy’s prison because he embezzled some of his fellow rich parasites’ money.

    The way it looks is the way it is.

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      I might get in trouble for this, but if I ever see Skhreli in person, I’ll do my best to make sure his nose lays flat across his cheek. He’s a garbage being that’s less than rats

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        Make sure to use a blunt instrument - you don’t want to be touching that toxic thing with your bare hands.

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          Boxing gloves protect your hands and allow you to hit harder. Doubly so if you’re holding a roll of quarters in each palm

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          I’ve been told a sock full of oranges doesn’t leave a bruise

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    40 months is slightly less the six years in the same way my pay check is slightly less than my CEOs

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      So him defrauding millions of times more than what that 15-year sentence guy stole is less bad because the fraudster also snitched on an even bigger fraudster?

      I think that isn’t an issue. The issue is the clearly disproportionate punishment of 15 years for 100 dollars.

      A few years for fraud especially you helped the catch more fraudsters is fine.

      15 years for something that won’t cover a night out is fucking wrong.

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        In most circumstances the dollar amount does matter. The titles are cherry picked. The 100 dollar theft wasnt from a convenience store, he robbed a bank. Is your argument that it was such a bad bank robbery that we shouldnt punish the guy? What about criminal history?

        Dramatizing the facts does not help make the point, it makes it less resilient. The situation is already lopsided if we just take the simple facts of what happened, but the titles of these articles are not that.

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          Trying t8 defend the US justice system is a bold fucking move.

          You do knowing about three strikes laws and mandatory minimums right?

          There are people serving life sentences for stealing food while most white collar crime, even when convicted, don’t get much jailtime at all. Usually fines, or parole or house-arrest in their mansions.

          Sometimes a non-violent felony also counts as a third strike, which thus would result in a disproportionate penalty., Three-strikes laws have thus also been criticized for imposing disproportionate penalties and focusing too much on street crime rather than white-collar crime.

          The US manufactures crimes so it can legally enslave the poor people. Because slavery is still legal in the US, as long as the slaves are convicted criminals.

          That’s genuinely propping up a significant portion of the US economy; slave labour from prisons which are filled up with all kinds of excuses.

          The wealthy ‘make mistakes’, the poor go to jail

          Pretending you don’t understand this is the reality of the situation is making me question your humanity.

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      Twice as long as the homeless man, yes.

      The difference in dollars and impact though, and considering who turned themselves in… It’s still an egregious sentence for $100.

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        It wasn’t the amount - It was the “who” that the homeless person robbed. He didn’t steal from a local liquor store or 7/11. He robbed from a bank. And bank robbery, since the time there have been banks to rob from, has always carried certain heavy punishments. And the punishments are well known to even a homeless person. And very often the judge gets no choice or leeway in the sentencing.

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          And TB&W also stole from banks through fraud.

          The judge isn’t the issue being called out, the laws and associated punishments are.

          So… yes. And my point stands.

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          And the punishments are well known to even a homeless person.

          The bootlicking condescension is strong here.

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        you can’t easily or directly compare the monetary value of violent vs non-violent crime. Robbery is not about the money from a severity perspective. Any robbery will be much more heavily punished than a theft of the same monetary value due to the violence or threat of violence agaist the person or people.

        If you stick a gun in someones face and ask them for one cent, you still should be going to jail for a decent amount of time - way more than shoplifting a 500 dollar tv.

        15 years does seem a lot though, you might have expected them to at least wave the weapon around, or put it direct to someones head, or put a knife to the throat - that doesn’t seem to be the case here. but if it were less than 5 , I’d think they’d got off lightly for robbery.

        The homeless guy should have shoplifted food from grocery store - not gone and threatened someones life.

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          That’s certainly quite the interpretation of what happened when Roy Brown went into the bank, said “this is a stickup” with no weapon, was handed three stacks of bills, took a single $100 bill, handed the rest back and said “Sorry, I’m homeless”.

          In other words, not remotely what you described.

          Goodbye.

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    It costs what $30k a year to keep someone in prison? Great use to taxpayer money for that $100 theft.

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      It unironically is a great use of money, if it wasn’t they wouldn’t do it. Prison Labor is basically slavery, and just as absurdly profitable, plus private prisons make more money with more inmates and can lobby as such.

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        Well, mainly it’s about funnelling taxpayer money into the hands of the prison industrial complex cause most states don’t go quite so hard on the prison labor

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          It’s a positive feedback loop built off of human suffering. Private Prisons lobby for more slave labor, making the Capitalist State more money, while the Prison Industrial Complex gets more money for imprisoning more people, and more slave labor to sell cheap commodities.

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          Sure, but money exists to benefit the ones holding Capital. The system itself supports and reinforces profit above all else, as such, it’s a great use of money for Capitalists.

          If you mean that it’s unethical and negative for the health of society, of course, I agree entirely. We can’t solve this problem outright without transitioning to Socialism.

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              I would advise you to read some books (like actual books, not a YouTube video essay about a book) about socialism because it seems to be something very different than you think.

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    i once heard someone say “prison is for people who steal hundreds, not millions”. this is an exception that there’s even any sentence for the top one.

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    It is whom your stealing from. Madoff for instance robbed the wrong people, should’ve robbed proletarians.

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    The first time I saw this picture, I was in middle school. It may well have been my first introduction to politics and started me down the path of leftism in general. Over a decade later and nothing’s changed.

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      That’s regular Capitalism, end-stage is when Capitalism reaches out internationally to dominate less developed countries with predatory loans (like from the IMF) and exporting Capital to produce goods for far lower wages than you would domestically.

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        Are you trying to imply that the US doesn’t already do this? They’ve overthrown democratically elected governments all over the latin americas (and other places, like hawaii) and imposed more fascist ones for access to their raw materials. Sure it’s not exactly using loans to do that, but the real end-game is fascism anyways once markets are fully saturated and there are no more ways to generate capital.

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          Are you trying to imply that the US doesn’t already do this?

          No, the exact opposite. We are at End-Stage Capitalism, there’s not much left for it to go.