Why doesn’t it ever stop
It’s not just in the politics subs now, it’s everywhere
Please, won’t someone make it stop
You can try to ignore politics all you want but it’ll fuck up your life anyway.
Not everyone lives in the USA you donkey. Your circus is EVERYWHERE and it’s driving me insane. It’s literally all you can talk about.
I don’t live in the US and I’m as fed up with the whole shitshow as you are. But US politics unfortunately influences the entire world and if Trump gets elected everybody will suffer, no matter where they live.
No Pete Buttigieg? Probably just as corporate as the other ones, but seems like he’d make a semi-decent pick.
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Its a coming to Jesus moment for party centrists about being so historically wrong they’ve been about everything, this entire time. And this is them trying to make up for it in rapid time. This is them realizing they don’t and didn’t know what the fuck they were doing, ever.
Real answer: We should nominate whoever is most likely to win. The most important and only point is that we need to beat Trump, and we need to stop project 2025. Keeping Biden as the nominee has continuously fucked over our ability to fix this idiotic and stupid unforced error, but here we are. We can fix this.
I think the most electable combination is Kamala + 1. I think that + 1 should be either farther to the left or farther to the right, but regardless you need to get a demographic. The two best options are AOC and Andy Beshear. If you go Andy Beshear, you are trying to pull off NC and GA, and PA. If you go AOC, you are doing so to recover the upper midwest. Andy Beshear is the harder path in an extremely polarized environment; Democrats have been notoriously bad at clawing back votes in southern states. If you go the AOC route, you let her take an oppositional stance on Israel/ Gaza and claw back MI/ MN/ WI.
MN hasn’t voted republican in a presidential election since tricky dick in 1972. There have been a few close calls.
MN Polling: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/minnesota/ MN polling at a toss up (keep in mind Trump almost always outperforms his polling).
Another fun one, Jersey is now a swing state: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/new-jersey/
Your comment about “claw back” implies that the dems lost MN. You can’t claw back that which hasn’t happened yet.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2020/minnesota/
Minnesota 2020.
Dems up by 10, and polling 15 pts ahead of where they are polling today.
Dems only won MN by five points on election day. Anything close to a tie in polling for Dems is an L.
Yes. It’s a correct statement to say that Dems have to have to claw things back to win MN.
None of the above, although Michelle would rock it - but she’s said she’s not interested, and having watched her husband do the job for 8 years, that’s probably a hard “nope.”
Harris will lose the race. She’ll be a popular punching bag for conservatives, and she’s polling even lower than Biden.
My favorites aren’t on there. Where’s Cory Booker? Where’s Amy Klobuchar? Where’s Andrew Yang? Where’s Buttigieg, or Warren?
Yang, Buttigieg, and Warren would lose, for different reasons. Klobuchar or Booker would stand a chance, i think. But of all of these “pre-vetted” options, I guess Whitmer’s in a strong position.
But not Harris. It’ll be her, of course, if he does step back, but they’ll crucify her. It’ll be Clinton all over again, only she’s starting even less popular than Hillary was. I don’t think conservatives have quite the visceral hatred for her that they seem to have foot Hillary, and she’s less prone to sticking her foot in her mouth, but nobody likes her, either. At least Hillary appealed to progressive women.
Where’s Andrew Yang?
#YangGang is a glimpse into the reality of the Democratic Party’s Asian American problem. (this isn’t the appropriate venue to actually discuss those issues; a quick Google search will quite contemporary results showing the trend).
Yang has moved on and created the “Forward Party” which is working to gain ballot access at the local level in a handful of States.
Thanks! I know Yang’s active, but I wasn’t aware he was that active. I hope he gets traction; it’s a steep, nearly impossible hill for third parties.
You might want to look at who his allies are and what his current policies are compared to what he claimed they were.
That’s good advice. Is there something in particular you think I should look out for?
I mostly go by stated planks and policies, and I admit I have assumed they haven’t changed much; when I do see news about him, nothing much seems to have changed.
OK. I’m sorry. That video is over an hour long, and even skipping forward through the toilet humor puppet parts, I found it hard to watch.
But I did watch far enough to grab this screenshot
which is the Forward Party’s planks. I take it you object to some of them? The YouTuber obviously did. I sat through his mocking the idea that the government should make policy on divisive issues based on facts (science) and, failing that, listening to the citizens and letting popular opinion decide policy. I dropped out before hearing his opinion on human-centered capitalism, although I could almost smell the laissez-faire economics through the screen, so I’m guessing he was equally dismissive of that.
If he mocked (and, could he not have?) the “Effective and Modern-Day Government,” well, I can’t blame him, because I don’t know WTF that means, either.
But, oh, if that guy’s a libertarian, and I’ve got a buck that says he is, then I’ll bet UBI really got him worked up. Although, I’d like to hear his solution for when ML eliminates white collar jobs, including his.
“Grace and Tolerance” are just being good people. It’s sad it has too be included as a plank, but considering that one party is objectively and openly opposed to any form of grace or tolerance (except tolerance of intolerance - Nazis deserve to be in government, too!), it’s not absurd that the Forward Party included it. It’s a sort of “Do no evil” company motto that served well, until accountants took over.
I got about a third of the way through before I bailed. Not my kind of humor, and I think from my brief exposure, I think I’d really dislike that guy as a person. He looks like someone I’d end up punching because he’s pushing his girlfriend around outside of a club.
Lol, incredible. Cody Johnston is for sure a libertarian, you have demonstrated incredible insight and intellectual rigor.
I think you’re exactly the kind of voter the Forward Party is looking for!
Someone who wants to know what they actually stand for, but, not, like, by doing something that would take more than 15 minutes.
As a non-USAmerican I only know Michelle Obama from that list. But if you want real change and young voters, get AOC on the ticket. I bet you that’ll wake people up. She’s media savvy and could probably get the entire tiktok+insta viewership to campaign for her. The facebook folk probably less so, and the redditors 50/50. She would need a male vice president though. Two women in the US ain’t making it this year.
But honestly, I want Trump to win. The world needs a good shake up and divorce from the USA. New alliances have to be made and the reliance on US tech and media has to stop. I know it would hurt USAmericans, but it’d be the best for the world to stop following the USA as if hypnotised.
Already happened 2016. It was awful. Hoped we’d never be here again.
Unless you’ve been hiding under a rock, you can see its influence spread over the globe. Germany recently voted hard right. Israel is a genocidal shithouse. India is Modi’s Muslim hate factory. All strutting the Putin way: oligarchs ruling & fascist division of the people spread with propaganda (RT, Fox news, Facebook & twaXtter).
Do you seriously think that was Trump? Nah dude, that was US media that has been infecting the world since the second world war. After Europe collapsed, the US swooped into the void and filled it with media portraying themselves as the victors and saviors. It spread USAmerican tribalism far and wide.
Then social media came along and Europe still hadn’t caught up nor recognised the power of media. Investments in film, TV, music, and internet were, and still are, ridiculously small compared to US investments. The internet just helped US media percolate deeper into European society. Now it’s on everbody’s phones and is an endless barrage.
Of course fossil fuel companies have a large role to play too. They helped mold a world focused on their product, which fucks up the environment. And tech companies play an even bigger role today, exploiting poor countries that were kneecapped by the US by destroying their democracies (or attempts at democracies) decades ago.
People want to flee and Europe comparatively easier to reach than the US, so they tried and still try to escape their situations. That of course gives right wing parties fodder to spread their hatred and blame a defenseless scapegoat.
I’m not saying the US is the root of all evil, I’m saying they play a monumental part in it. Trump is just an accelerator to a possible decoupling of Europe and other economies from the US.
We all know the DNC is controlled by corporate interests. They aren’t protecting the population. All they are protecting is their investments. Had they cared about the people, they’d never had thrown their support behind a second term for Biden. He too old 4 years ago and is way too old now. If the vote is won by a democrat, and that will only happen if the DNC takes a fucking stick out of their ass and force Biden to drop out ASAP, that will just mean another 4 years where the US can keep semi-good relations with the world. The world won’t have a reset button.
AOC turns 35 right before the election, she’s eligible. I think she’d be incredible. She knows how to energize people
I really wish she wasn’t constantly referred to by an acronym, it makes her sound like a super PAC or some other soulless organization instead of an actual person. Pedantic I know, but as someone only vaguely familiar with her, it’s the first thing I think of when I hear about her.
What about MLK, LBJ, JFK, RFK, etc? Lots of people get “initialized”
Milky, Leblanc jayce, Jesus fucking Krist, no idea.
I prefer names tbh. I’m not american tho.
